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long as needed. of course, this 
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may also be a watershed to be 
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in government media 
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communications. so we hope that 
we will be able to carry on 

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we will be able to carry on 
with the new norm, which is 

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with the new norm, which is 
free mywi with my tea-pot tobi 

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free mywi with my tea-pot tobi 
so starting off with the points 

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so starting off with the points 
from the Cabinet meeting this 

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from the Cabinet meeting this 
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morning following the CCSA 
meeting yesterday the Cabinet. 

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period from the original date 

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period from the original date 
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of April the thirtieth, the 
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second is, of course, the 
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Cabinet approved the extension 
of the curfew. the continuation 

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of the curfew. the continuation 
of the decree, which will call 

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of the decree, which will call 
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for the extension of the 
curfew, which means that 

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curfew, which means that 
everyone will not be permitted 

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everyone will not be permitted 
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to go outside their respective 
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homes from 10 PM to four AM 
without appropriate reasons as 

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without appropriate reasons as 
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specified by the law. the third 
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issue is on the limitation of 
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movements movements within 
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Thailand and ban on public 
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gatherings including inter 
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of Thailand and the Thai people 
in mind the Cabinet it is also 

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in mind the Cabinet it is also 
considering the decrease of the 

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considering the decrease of the 
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level of intensity and the 
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scope of the prohibitions that 
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affect the normal operations of 
businesses and these measures 

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businesses and these measures 
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will be gradually and 
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constantly reviewed based on 
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the prevailing situations. But 
of course you have the curfew 

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of course you have the curfew 
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and the limitation of movement 
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movement and the fight ban in 
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place as for the additional 
flexible measures that I. That 

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flexible measures that I. That 
will be constant constantly 

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will be constant constantly 
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reviewed and announced in due 
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course, but that being said 
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everyone needs to follow 
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continue to follow the strict 
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regulations to prevent the 
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resurgence of Covid- 19. For 
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instance, social dising still 
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needs to be observed and the 
disease detection process and 

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disease detection process and 
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control of the peopleâ€™s 
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movement flow in and out of all 
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establishments still needs to 
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be monitored here at the CSA. 
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situation may be for everyone, 
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especially those who are now. 
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operations have been affected, 
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so we ask for your 
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understanding and for your 
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patience while the necessary 
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preparations and arrangements 
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are being made to alleviate the 
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situation, the force balance 
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needs to be maintained between 
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the economy and health because 
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this situation could, of course 
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worsen and there are numerous 
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examples around the world of 
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the second wave the worst case 
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scenario that we wish would 
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situation and the numbers that 
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we have on the number of cases 
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we have to report to you today 
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as only the only seven new 
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confirmed cases as you see on 
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screen now, making the 
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cumulative of number of cases 
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2978, which is an addition of 
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including these are those in 
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state quarantine, which is 78. 
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so in terms of percentage to 
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put it plainly the cumulative 
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number of cases 2930 - Eight of 
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this number I can say that. 
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Have recovered, which is in the 
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Green box 2600 5290 percent 
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remains in treatment in 
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hospital and the rest around 
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two percent are are the 
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fatalities so 90 plus eight 
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plus two that makes 101 hundred 
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percent of 2930 - eight. so for 
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the new fatalities required 
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today, we have two new 
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fatalities making the total 54 
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fatalities in Thailand the. 50 
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third fatality is in Bangkok, a 
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Thai male aged 50 - two in 
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private business and contracted 
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the virus through close contact 
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with confirmed patient in a 
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conference and had high fever 
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body aches and passed away with 
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complications of respiratory 
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failure and kidney failure. The 
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50 fourth fatality is in Phuket 
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The observations of new cases 
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we have that close contact with 
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family members remain the 
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primary source of new diseases 
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and fatalities. so thatâ€™s 
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everyone should continue to 
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take the precautions and wear 
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protective gear when contacting 
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family members, especially the 
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elderly children and those with 
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immunity deficiencies. The 
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spokesperson also summarized in 
one of the charts. classifying 

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one of the charts. classifying 
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each province in Thailand into 
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color codes into color zones, 
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Red yellow light yellow Green 
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and the like in order to 
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monitor the situation in each 
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province. Turning to the 
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enforcement of curfew the 
violations issue we have 384 

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violations issue we have 384 
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violations in terms of leaving 
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the residents and 143 in terms 
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of gatherings, making the total 
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520 - seven, so the fact that 

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520 - seven, so the fact that 
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the situation may seem to get 
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better. That is no excuse of 
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course for any complacency or 
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reason for carelessness 
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On the issue of Thai nationals 

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On the issue of Thai nationals 
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repatriation by land and air 
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thatâ€™s still going on and 
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stressing every day that these 
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nationals, although some cases 
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in the past have been from 
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imported movements right now. 
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As of today, our system is very 
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secure in terms of receiving 
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back repatriation flights from 
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nationals as with the state 
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quarantine process in place and 
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all the checking and monitoring 
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So from the fourth to recap 
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seventh of April, you can see 
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on screen in the blue box on 
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the right-hand corner on the 
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bottom, the fourth to the 20 
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seventh of April 2020, the 
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number of Thai nationals, which 
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have been assisted by air 
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repatriation Total 2760 - nine 
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from 21 countries around the 
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world and we will continue to 
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work tirelessly to facilitate 
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Yes, this mission was made 

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Yes, this mission was made 
possible with the collaboration 

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possible with the collaboration 
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of the public and private 
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sector, both Thai and New 
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Zealand. so we extend our 
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gratitude to all the involved 
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in including to the government 
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and people of New Zealand for 
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their contribution and valued 
cooperation for this reciprocal 

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cooperation for this reciprocal 
repatriation flight. 

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To come to New Delhi to 

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To come to New Delhi to 
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assemble in New Delhi, and weâ€™d 
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like, of course, also to thank 
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the Government of India for 
this contribution. 

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There is one important piece of 

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There is one important piece of 
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information, which regards the 
new norms for and practices for 

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new norms for and practices for 
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domestic flights because soon 
next week the Dems some 

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next week the Dems some 
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domestic flights commercial 
fights will be resumed in 

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fights will be resumed in 
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Civil Aviation Authority of 
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Thailand met with airline 
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operators to prepare for the 
new practical guidelines for 

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new practical guidelines for 
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domestic air transportation. 
the measures and you see a 

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the measures and you see a 
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slide on screen summarizing 
this an English language fly. 

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this an English language fly. 
courtesy of the public 

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courtesy of the public 
Relations Department, the new 

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Relations Department, the new 
practical guidelines for 

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practical guidelines for 
domestic flight in Thailand 

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domestic flight in Thailand 
would include the physical 

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would include the physical 
distancing during in flight 

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distancing during in flight 
sitting the passengers with 

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sitting the passengers with 
high temperatures or fevers 

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high temperatures or fevers 
will not be permitted to fly 

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will not be permitted to fly 
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physical distancing at check in 
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counters doing embarkation and 
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this embarkation passengers on 
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airport transfer bus will be 
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kept at an number. face mask is 
mand. No food and drinks on 

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mand. No food and drinks on 
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board and passengers in a 
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vulnerable groups will be 
provided special seats in 

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provided special seats in 
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flight that takes longer than 
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the lock down in each province. 
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mentioned yesterday, it is 
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important that now we call it 
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that we are in the new normal 
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stage we see my as a 
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spokesperson had repeated often 
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so weâ€™d like to include this 
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new normal as in keeping your 
personal hygiene wearing masks 

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personal hygiene wearing masks 
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washing hands, maintaining 
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physical distance and keep in 
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mind that the current decrease 
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in numbers that we show to you 
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every day are not a reason to 
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relax at all because this 
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A big and every 100 years, and 
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of course, this is a challenge. 
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itâ€™s a classic challenge for 
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the world because when we look 
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through the past adaptation and 
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survival, itâ€™s being repeated 
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perpetually and we have 
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overcome this countless of 
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times in our history and our 
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track record the track record 
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of human beings, of course, it 
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look it looks good because 
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weâ€™ve been fighting these 
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pandemics all along and we have 
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been successful and we have 
survived. 