1 00:00:38,638 --> 00:00:40,173 >> Mark: THANKS FOR TUNING IN 2 00:00:40,173 --> 00:00:42,343 >> Mark: THANKS FOR TUNING IN TODAY AND I HOPE YOU ARE ALL 3 00:00:42,343 --> 00:00:44,212 TODAY AND I HOPE YOU ARE ALL STAYING HEALTHY AND GOOD. 4 00:00:44,212 --> 00:00:45,646 STAYING HEALTHY AND GOOD. I’M HERE TODAY WITH 5 00:00:45,646 --> 00:00:47,215 I’M HERE TODAY WITH DR. ANTHONY FAUCI, OUR NATION’S 6 00:00:47,215 --> 00:00:48,615 DR. ANTHONY FAUCI, OUR NATION’S LEADING INFECTIOUS DISEASE 7 00:00:48,615 --> 00:00:50,218 LEADING INFECTIOUS DISEASE EXPERT TO DISCUSS THE RECENT 8 00:00:50,218 --> 00:00:51,953 EXPERT TO DISCUSS THE RECENT SURGE IN COVID ACROSS THE 9 00:00:51,953 --> 00:00:54,255 SURGE IN COVID ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND HOW WE CAN ALL STAY 10 00:00:54,255 --> 00:00:56,257 COUNTRY AND HOW WE CAN ALL STAY SAFE AND IMPROVE THE COUNTRY’S 11 00:00:56,257 --> 00:00:58,993 SAFE AND IMPROVE THE COUNTRY’S TRAJECTORY GOING FORWARD. 12 00:00:58,993 --> 00:00:59,894 TRAJECTORY GOING FORWARD. DR. FAUCI LAST JOINED ME A 13 00:00:59,894 --> 00:01:03,798 DR. FAUCI LAST JOINED ME A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, I THINK, WHEN 14 00:01:03,798 --> 00:01:04,832 COUPLE MONTHS AGO, I THINK, WHEN COVID WAS FIRST BEGINNING TO 15 00:01:04,832 --> 00:01:05,800 COVID WAS FIRST BEGINNING TO SPREAD IN THE U.S. AND SINCE 16 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,602 SPREAD IN THE U.S. AND SINCE THEN WE’VE HAD A LOCKDOWN AND WE 17 00:01:08,602 --> 00:01:10,137 THEN WE’VE HAD A LOCKDOWN AND WE STARTED REOPENING AND MANY WOULD 18 00:01:10,137 --> 00:01:12,273 STARTED REOPENING AND MANY WOULD SAY MAYBE WE STARTED REOPENING A 19 00:01:12,273 --> 00:01:13,174 SAY MAYBE WE STARTED REOPENING A BIT TOO QUICKLY BEFORE WE REALLY 20 00:01:13,174 --> 00:01:16,410 BIT TOO QUICKLY BEFORE WE REALLY GOT IT UNDER CONTROL AND WHILE 21 00:01:16,410 --> 00:01:17,278 GOT IT UNDER CONTROL AND WHILE EVERY OTHER DEVELOPED COUNTRY IN 22 00:01:17,278 --> 00:01:20,014 EVERY OTHER DEVELOPED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD OR ALMOST EVERY OTHER 23 00:01:20,014 --> 00:01:21,415 THE WORLD OR ALMOST EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HAS HAD A RELATIVELY 24 00:01:21,415 --> 00:01:23,951 COUNTRY HAS HAD A RELATIVELY SMALLER NUMBER OF NEW INFECTIONS 25 00:01:23,951 --> 00:01:25,486 SMALLER NUMBER OF NEW INFECTIONS INFECTIONS, WE NOW FACE A RECORD 26 00:01:25,486 --> 00:01:26,787 INFECTIONS, WE NOW FACE A RECORD NUMBER OF NEW INFECTIONS EVERY 27 00:01:26,787 --> 00:01:30,090 NUMBER OF NEW INFECTIONS EVERY DAY, MORE THAN 50,000 I THINK 28 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:32,026 DAY, MORE THAN 50,000 I THINK DAILY IS THE REASON NUMBER. 29 00:01:32,026 --> 00:01:32,994 DAILY IS THE REASON NUMBER. AND AT THIS POINT IT IS CLEAR 30 00:01:32,994 --> 00:01:36,397 AND AT THIS POINT IT IS CLEAR THAT TE TRAJECTORY IN THE U.S. 31 00:01:36,397 --> 00:01:37,464 THAT TE TRAJECTORY IN THE U.S. IS SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE THAN MANY 32 00:01:37,464 --> 00:01:41,002 IS SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE THAN MANY OTHER COUNTRIES AND THAT OUR 33 00:01:41,002 --> 00:01:43,171 OTHER COUNTRIES AND THAT OUR GOVERNMENT DOWN TO THIS 34 00:01:43,171 --> 00:01:43,670 GOVERNMENT DOWN TO THIS ADMINISTRATION HAVE BEEN 35 00:01:43,670 --> 00:01:44,271 ADMINISTRATION HAVE BEEN CONSIDERABLY LESS EFFECTIVE IN 36 00:01:44,271 --> 00:01:47,241 CONSIDERABLY LESS EFFECTIVE IN HANDLING THIS AND I PERSONALLY 37 00:01:47,241 --> 00:01:49,009 HANDLING THIS AND I PERSONALLY THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THIS A LOT 38 00:01:49,009 --> 00:01:50,177 THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THIS A LOT MORE SERIOUSLY. 39 00:01:50,177 --> 00:01:52,813 MORE SERIOUSLY. AND OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE 40 00:01:52,813 --> 00:01:53,781 AND OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE DISEASE, OF COURSE, IS EVOLVING 41 00:01:53,781 --> 00:01:55,983 DISEASE, OF COURSE, IS EVOLVING AND OUR RESPONSE NEEDS TO BE 42 00:01:55,983 --> 00:01:57,083 AND OUR RESPONSE NEEDS TO BE GUIDED BY SCIENCE. 43 00:01:57,083 --> 00:01:59,353 GUIDED BY SCIENCE. AND OUR LATEST SCIENTIFIC 44 00:01:59,353 --> 00:02:00,821 AND OUR LATEST SCIENTIFIC UNDERSTANDING, EVEN IF IT’S NOT 45 00:02:00,821 --> 00:02:01,689 UNDERSTANDING, EVEN IF IT’S NOT PERFECT IN ANY GIVEN MOMENT. 46 00:02:01,689 --> 00:02:03,657 PERFECT IN ANY GIVEN MOMENT. SO I WANT TO SAY UPFRONT THAT 47 00:02:03,657 --> 00:02:06,060 SO I WANT TO SAY UPFRONT THAT I’M GRATEFUL FOR THE LEADERSHIP 48 00:02:06,060 --> 00:02:08,996 I’M GRATEFUL FOR THE LEADERSHIP AND DEDICATION OF B5, WHO HAS 49 00:02:08,996 --> 00:02:10,565 AND DEDICATION OF B5, WHO HAS BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY UNDER 50 00:02:10,565 --> 00:02:12,632 BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY UNDER VERY DIFFICULT CONDITIONS TO 51 00:02:12,632 --> 00:02:14,368 VERY DIFFICULT CONDITIONS TO HELP US ALL NAVIGATE THIS. 52 00:02:14,368 --> 00:02:16,637 HELP US ALL NAVIGATE THIS. SO DOCTOR, THANK YOU FOR JOINING 53 00:02:16,637 --> 00:02:16,804 SO DOCTOR, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. 54 00:02:16,804 --> 00:02:19,240 US. AND I’D LOVE TO GET STARTED BY 55 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,875 AND I’D LOVE TO GET STARTED BY GETTING YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON 56 00:02:21,875 --> 00:02:23,511 GETTING YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON WHERE THINGS ARE NOW, WHY THE 57 00:02:23,511 --> 00:02:26,614 WHERE THINGS ARE NOW, WHY THE U.S. RESPONSE HAS BEEN LESS 58 00:02:26,614 --> 00:02:27,148 U.S. RESPONSE HAS BEEN LESS EFFECTIVE THAN MANY OTHER 59 00:02:27,148 --> 00:02:29,483 EFFECTIVE THAN MANY OTHER DEVELOPED COUNTRIES AND WHAT DO 60 00:02:29,483 --> 00:02:32,987 DEVELOPED COUNTRIES AND WHAT DO WE DO TO IMPROVE FROM HERE? 61 00:02:32,987 --> 00:02:33,854 WE DO TO IMPROVE FROM HERE? >> Dr. Fauci: WELL, AS YOU 62 00:02:33,854 --> 00:02:38,225 >> Dr. Fauci: WELL, AS YOU DESCRIBED ACCURATELY, WE DO HAVE 63 00:02:38,225 --> 00:02:38,759 DESCRIBED ACCURATELY, WE DO HAVE A SERIOUS SITUATION NOW. 64 00:02:38,759 --> 00:02:41,394 A SERIOUS SITUATION NOW. IT’S A MIXED BAG. 65 00:02:41,394 --> 00:02:42,597 IT’S A MIXED BAG. THERE ARE PARTS OF THE COUNTRY 66 00:02:42,597 --> 00:02:45,066 THERE ARE PARTS OF THE COUNTRY THAT ARE DOING WELL, THE 67 00:02:45,066 --> 00:02:47,635 THAT ARE DOING WELL, THE NORTHEASTERN PART, PARTICULARLY 68 00:02:47,635 --> 00:02:48,269 NORTHEASTERN PART, PARTICULARLY THE NEW YORK METROPOLITAN AREA, 69 00:02:48,269 --> 00:02:52,239 THE NEW YORK METROPOLITAN AREA, WAS HIT VERY HARD, A PERIOD OF 70 00:02:52,239 --> 00:02:54,842 WAS HIT VERY HARD, A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE MORE THAN 50% OF ALL 71 00:02:54,842 --> 00:02:57,011 TIME WHERE MORE THAN 50% OF ALL THE NEW INFECTIONS AND 72 00:02:57,011 --> 00:02:57,677 THE NEW INFECTIONS AND HOSPITALIZATIONS AND DEATHS WERE 73 00:02:57,677 --> 00:02:58,312 HOSPITALIZATIONS AND DEATHS WERE RIGHT IN NEW YORK CITY AND THERE 74 00:02:58,312 --> 00:02:59,580 RIGHT IN NEW YORK CITY AND THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THEY WERE 75 00:02:59,580 --> 00:03:02,283 WAS A TIME WHEN THEY WERE ESSENTIALLY LEADING WITH REGARD 76 00:03:02,283 --> 00:03:04,385 ESSENTIALLY LEADING WITH REGARD FROM A BAD STANDPOINT, MAINLY 77 00:03:04,385 --> 00:03:05,553 FROM A BAD STANDPOINT, MAINLY ILLNESS AND DEATH. 78 00:03:05,553 --> 00:03:07,188 ILLNESS AND DEATH. THEY’VE DONE VERY, VERY WELL 79 00:03:07,188 --> 00:03:07,655 THEY’VE DONE VERY, VERY WELL RIGHT NOW. 80 00:03:07,655 --> 00:03:08,956 RIGHT NOW. THEY’VE COME BACK DOWN AND ARE 81 00:03:08,956 --> 00:03:11,025 THEY’VE COME BACK DOWN AND ARE OPENING IN A VERY MEASURED WAY. 82 00:03:11,025 --> 00:03:12,059 OPENING IN A VERY MEASURED WAY. HOWEVER, AS YOU ALLUDED TO, 83 00:03:12,059 --> 00:03:15,195 HOWEVER, AS YOU ALLUDED TO, SIMULTANEOUS WITH THAT, IN 84 00:03:15,195 --> 00:03:18,032 SIMULTANEOUS WITH THAT, IN ANOTHER REGION OF THE COUNTRY, 85 00:03:18,032 --> 00:03:19,033 ANOTHER REGION OF THE COUNTRY, SOUTHERN STATES PARTICULARLY 86 00:03:19,033 --> 00:03:21,201 SOUTHERN STATES PARTICULARLY EXAMPLE FIRED BY FLORIDA, 87 00:03:21,201 --> 00:03:23,604 EXAMPLE FIRED BY FLORIDA, CALIFORNIA, ARIZONA, TEXAS, HAVE 88 00:03:23,604 --> 00:03:26,239 CALIFORNIA, ARIZONA, TEXAS, HAVE SEEN SURGES THAT ARE REALLY 89 00:03:26,239 --> 00:03:27,208 SEEN SURGES THAT ARE REALLY QUITE DISTURBING. 90 00:03:27,208 --> 00:03:27,975 QUITE DISTURBING. SURGES, AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT 91 00:03:27,975 --> 00:03:30,811 SURGES, AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT HAVE GONE UP TO OVER 60,000 92 00:03:30,811 --> 00:03:32,146 HAVE GONE UP TO OVER 60,000 CASES A DAY. 93 00:03:32,146 --> 00:03:32,780 CASES A DAY. THAT OBVIOUSLY IS SOMETHING THAT 94 00:03:32,780 --> 00:03:36,084 THAT OBVIOUSLY IS SOMETHING THAT WE MUST ADDRESS AND ADDRESS IN A 95 00:03:36,084 --> 00:03:38,786 WE MUST ADDRESS AND ADDRESS IN A VERY, VERY COGENT WAY AND IF YOU 96 00:03:38,786 --> 00:03:41,988 VERY, VERY COGENT WAY AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE REASON FOR THAT YOU 97 00:03:41,988 --> 00:03:43,189 LOOK AT THE REASON FOR THAT YOU ASK THE "WHY?" 98 00:03:43,189 --> 00:03:45,626 ASK THE "WHY?" , IT’S A COMPLICATED ANSWER TO 99 00:03:45,626 --> 00:03:46,460 , IT’S A COMPLICATED ANSWER TO THAT BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IT 100 00:03:46,460 --> 00:03:49,897 THAT BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IT BECAME CLEAR IS THAT WHEN YOU 101 00:03:49,897 --> 00:03:51,499 BECAME CLEAR IS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK, AND I AM NOT GOING TO NAME 102 00:03:51,499 --> 00:03:53,034 LOOK, AND I AM NOT GOING TO NAME ANY SPECIFIC STATES BUT THERE 103 00:03:53,034 --> 00:03:54,068 ANY SPECIFIC STATES BUT THERE ARE SOME STATES THAT ACTUALLY, 104 00:03:54,068 --> 00:03:56,103 ARE SOME STATES THAT ACTUALLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE 105 00:03:56,103 --> 00:03:57,638 WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE GUIDELINES WERE FOR OPENING, THE 106 00:03:57,638 --> 00:03:59,205 GUIDELINES WERE FOR OPENING, THE CHECKPOINTS THAT YOU WANT TO GET 107 00:03:59,205 --> 00:04:01,308 CHECKPOINTS THAT YOU WANT TO GET PAST BEFORE YOU WENT TO THE NEXT 108 00:04:01,308 --> 00:04:03,711 PAST BEFORE YOU WENT TO THE NEXT PHASE, SOME OF THEM WENT TO 109 00:04:03,711 --> 00:04:04,912 PHASE, SOME OF THEM WENT TO QUICKLY AND OFFICIALLY JUMPED 110 00:04:04,912 --> 00:04:05,912 QUICKLY AND OFFICIALLY JUMPED OVER THEM. 111 00:04:05,912 --> 00:04:08,215 OVER THEM. THAT IS I HAD SAID IN PREVIOUS 112 00:04:08,215 --> 00:04:11,419 THAT IS I HAD SAID IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, IS A RECIPE FOR 113 00:04:11,419 --> 00:04:12,653 DISCUSSIONS, IS A RECIPE FOR GETTING INTO TROUBLE. 114 00:04:12,653 --> 00:04:13,753 GETTING INTO TROUBLE. IN OTHER SITUATIONS, WHERE THE 115 00:04:13,753 --> 00:04:16,590 IN OTHER SITUATIONS, WHERE THE STATES ACTUALLY OFFICIALLY, 116 00:04:16,590 --> 00:04:18,359 STATES ACTUALLY OFFICIALLY, GOVERNORS, THE MAYOR’S, PUT OUT 117 00:04:18,359 --> 00:04:18,926 GOVERNORS, THE MAYOR’S, PUT OUT AND DELINEATED EXACTLY WHAT 118 00:04:18,926 --> 00:04:21,195 AND DELINEATED EXACTLY WHAT SHOULD BE DONE ABOUT THE 119 00:04:21,195 --> 00:04:24,465 SHOULD BE DONE ABOUT THE CITIZENRY OF THE STATE OR THE 120 00:04:24,465 --> 00:04:27,134 CITIZENRY OF THE STATE OR THE CITY HAD THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU 121 00:04:27,134 --> 00:04:29,903 CITY HAD THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU WENT EITHER FROM LOCKDOWN TO PUT 122 00:04:29,903 --> 00:04:34,942 WENT EITHER FROM LOCKDOWN TO PUT CAUTION TO THE WIND AND WHAT WE 123 00:04:34,942 --> 00:04:35,843 CAUTION TO THE WIND AND WHAT WE SAW, PEOPLE HAVE BARS 124 00:04:35,843 --> 00:04:38,778 SAW, PEOPLE HAVE BARS CONGREGATING WITHOUT MASKS, NOT 125 00:04:38,778 --> 00:04:39,714 CONGREGATING WITHOUT MASKS, NOT STAYING DISTANT, IN CROWDS AND 126 00:04:39,714 --> 00:04:41,349 STAYING DISTANT, IN CROWDS AND THAT’S WHAT I BELIEVE IS AT 127 00:04:41,349 --> 00:04:43,350 THAT’S WHAT I BELIEVE IS AT LEAST PART OF THE EXPLANATION 128 00:04:43,350 --> 00:04:46,353 LEAST PART OF THE EXPLANATION FOR WHY WE’VE SEEN THE SURGES 129 00:04:46,353 --> 00:04:48,188 FOR WHY WE’VE SEEN THE SURGES WENT UP. 130 00:04:48,188 --> 00:04:49,390 WENT UP. THAT’S THE FIRST THING. 131 00:04:49,390 --> 00:04:50,323 THAT’S THE FIRST THING. THE OTHER THING THAT’S IMPORTANT 132 00:04:50,323 --> 00:04:53,328 THE OTHER THING THAT’S IMPORTANT IN COMPARISON TO OTHER 133 00:04:53,328 --> 00:04:54,828 IN COMPARISON TO OTHER COUNTRIES, WHICH IS, IN SOME 134 00:04:54,828 --> 00:04:55,396 COUNTRIES, WHICH IS, IN SOME RESPECTS UNFAIR BUT IN SOME 135 00:04:55,396 --> 00:04:58,565 RESPECTS UNFAIR BUT IN SOME RESPECTS IS FAIR, THAT WHEN YOU 136 00:04:58,565 --> 00:05:00,768 RESPECTS IS FAIR, THAT WHEN YOU LOOKED AT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE 137 00:05:00,768 --> 00:05:02,002 LOOKED AT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, WHEN THEY 138 00:05:02,002 --> 00:05:04,371 EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, WHEN THEY HAD THEIR PEAK AND THEY LOCKED 139 00:05:04,371 --> 00:05:05,473 HAD THEIR PEAK AND THEY LOCKED DOWN, THEY LOCKED DOWN TO THE 140 00:05:05,473 --> 00:05:10,578 DOWN, THEY LOCKED DOWN TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT 90%-95% OF THE 141 00:05:10,578 --> 00:05:11,112 TUNE OF ABOUT 90%-95% OF THE COUNTRY TRULY LOCKED DOWN. 142 00:05:11,112 --> 00:05:13,981 COUNTRY TRULY LOCKED DOWN. SO THEY WENT UP AND THEY CAME 143 00:05:13,981 --> 00:05:14,381 SO THEY WENT UP AND THEY CAME DOWN TO BASELINE. 144 00:05:14,381 --> 00:05:18,585 DOWN TO BASELINE. AND WHEN I SAY BASELINE, I MEAN 145 00:05:18,585 --> 00:05:20,721 AND WHEN I SAY BASELINE, I MEAN LITERALLY, HANDFULS OF NEW 146 00:05:20,721 --> 00:05:22,355 LITERALLY, HANDFULS OF NEW CASES, TENS, 20s, 30s. 147 00:05:22,355 --> 00:05:25,159 CASES, TENS, 20s, 30s. NOT HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS. 148 00:05:25,159 --> 00:05:26,559 NOT HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS. WHEN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE 149 00:05:26,559 --> 00:05:27,762 WHEN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE UNITED STATES AS A WHOLE, WHEN 150 00:05:27,762 --> 00:05:28,395 UNITED STATES AS A WHOLE, WHEN WE WENT UP AND PEAKED AND 151 00:05:28,395 --> 00:05:32,833 WE WENT UP AND PEAKED AND STARTED TO COME DOWN, WE NEVER 152 00:05:32,833 --> 00:05:35,202 STARTED TO COME DOWN, WE NEVER REALLY WENT DOWN TO BASELINE, WE 153 00:05:35,202 --> 00:05:36,737 REALLY WENT DOWN TO BASELINE, WE PLATEAUED AT AROUND 20,000 CASES 154 00:05:36,737 --> 00:05:38,104 PLATEAUED AT AROUND 20,000 CASES A DAY EACH DAY UNTIL WE GOT INTO 155 00:05:38,104 --> 00:05:41,242 A DAY EACH DAY UNTIL WE GOT INTO THE RESURGENCE WHICH THEN CAME 156 00:05:41,242 --> 00:05:44,844 THE RESURGENCE WHICH THEN CAME BACK UP TO 30, 40, 50, 60. 157 00:05:44,844 --> 00:05:46,046 BACK UP TO 30, 40, 50, 60. SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WHAT I THINK 158 00:05:46,046 --> 00:05:48,783 SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO DO, AND MY COLLEAGUES 159 00:05:48,783 --> 00:05:51,218 WE NEED TO DO, AND MY COLLEAGUES AGREE, IS THAT WE REALLY GOT TO 160 00:05:51,218 --> 00:05:53,754 AGREE, IS THAT WE REALLY GOT TO ALMOST REGROUP, CALL A TIMEOUT. 161 00:05:53,754 --> 00:05:55,790 ALMOST REGROUP, CALL A TIMEOUT. NOT NECESSARILY LOCKDOWN AGAIN 162 00:05:55,790 --> 00:05:57,958 NOT NECESSARILY LOCKDOWN AGAIN BUT SAY, WE’VE GOT TO DO THIS IN 163 00:05:57,958 --> 00:05:58,592 BUT SAY, WE’VE GOT TO DO THIS IN A MORE MEASURED WAY. 164 00:05:58,592 --> 00:05:59,993 A MORE MEASURED WAY. WE’VE GOT TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND 165 00:05:59,993 --> 00:06:02,329 WE’VE GOT TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND THIS AND WE’VE GOT TO GET THIS 166 00:06:02,329 --> 00:06:02,763 THIS AND WE’VE GOT TO GET THIS CONTROLLED. 167 00:06:02,763 --> 00:06:04,532 CONTROLLED. IF WE DON’T DO THAT, MARK, WE 168 00:06:04,532 --> 00:06:07,268 IF WE DON’T DO THAT, MARK, WE ARE GOING TO WIND UP GETTING A 169 00:06:07,268 --> 00:06:08,202 ARE GOING TO WIND UP GETTING A SITUATION WHERE IN OTHER STATES 170 00:06:08,202 --> 00:06:09,670 SITUATION WHERE IN OTHER STATES WHO MAY BE SEEING THE SAME 171 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:09,870 WHO MAY BE SEEING THE SAME THING. 172 00:06:09,870 --> 00:06:12,405 THING. SO IT’S A MIXED BAG IN THIS 173 00:06:12,405 --> 00:06:12,639 SO IT’S A MIXED BAG IN THIS COUNTRY. 174 00:06:12,639 --> 00:06:15,042 COUNTRY. SOME AREAS DOING WELL BUT SOME 175 00:06:15,042 --> 00:06:16,242 SOME AREAS DOING WELL BUT SOME REALLY WE’VE GOT TO REALLY PAY 176 00:06:16,242 --> 00:06:16,844 REALLY WE’VE GOT TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO AND DO SOMETHING 177 00:06:16,844 --> 00:06:19,079 ATTENTION TO AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. 178 00:06:19,079 --> 00:06:23,349 ABOUT IT. >> Mark: ALL RIGHT, WELL, 179 00:06:23,349 --> 00:06:24,251 >> Mark: ALL RIGHT, WELL, DOCTOR, I STRONGLY AGREE THAT WE 180 00:06:24,251 --> 00:06:27,620 DOCTOR, I STRONGLY AGREE THAT WE NEED TO SOMEWHAT A RESET HERE. 181 00:06:27,620 --> 00:06:28,355 NEED TO SOMEWHAT A RESET HERE. AS SOMEONE RUNNING A BUSINESS, 182 00:06:28,355 --> 00:06:31,991 AS SOMEONE RUNNING A BUSINESS, I’VE SAID THAT I BELIEVE THE 183 00:06:31,991 --> 00:06:33,760 I’VE SAID THAT I BELIEVE THE BEST WAY TO IMPROVE BOTH PUBLIC 184 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:34,928 BEST WAY TO IMPROVE BOTH PUBLIC HEALTH AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY 185 00:06:34,928 --> 00:06:37,131 HEALTH AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IS TO FOCUS ON BEATING THIS 186 00:06:37,131 --> 00:06:38,766 IS TO FOCUS ON BEATING THIS VIRUS FIRST. 187 00:06:38,766 --> 00:06:41,267 VIRUS FIRST. I ALSO HAVE TO SAY, I THINK YOU 188 00:06:41,267 --> 00:06:45,072 I ALSO HAVE TO SAY, I THINK YOU MIGHT BE QUITE GENEROUS IN YOUR 189 00:06:45,072 --> 00:06:46,774 MIGHT BE QUITE GENEROUS IN YOUR DESCRIPTION OF THE GOVERNMENT’S 190 00:06:46,774 --> 00:06:47,107 DESCRIPTION OF THE GOVERNMENT’S RESPONSE HERE. 191 00:06:47,107 --> 00:06:48,375 RESPONSE HERE. I WAS CERTAINLY SYMPATHETIC 192 00:06:48,375 --> 00:06:49,977 I WAS CERTAINLY SYMPATHETIC EARLY ON WHEN IT WAS CLEAR THAT 193 00:06:49,977 --> 00:06:52,979 EARLY ON WHEN IT WAS CLEAR THAT THERE WILL BE SOME OUTBREAKS, NO 194 00:06:52,979 --> 00:06:53,848 THERE WILL BE SOME OUTBREAKS, NO MATTER HOW WELL WE HANDLED THIS 195 00:06:53,848 --> 00:06:57,150 MATTER HOW WELL WE HANDLED THIS BUT NOW THAT WE ARE HERE IN 196 00:06:57,150 --> 00:06:59,320 BUT NOW THAT WE ARE HERE IN JULY, I JUST THINK THAT IT WAS 197 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,188 JULY, I JUST THINK THAT IT WAS AVOIDABLE AND IT’S REALLY 198 00:07:01,188 --> 00:07:02,823 AVOIDABLE AND IT’S REALLY DISAPPOINTING THAT WE STILL 199 00:07:02,823 --> 00:07:04,525 DISAPPOINTING THAT WE STILL DON’T HAVE ADEQUATE TESTING, 200 00:07:04,525 --> 00:07:07,628 DON’T HAVE ADEQUATE TESTING, THAT THE CREDIBILITY OF OUR TOP 201 00:07:07,628 --> 00:07:09,162 THAT THE CREDIBILITY OF OUR TOP SCIENTISTS, LIKE YOURSELF, AND 202 00:07:09,162 --> 00:07:10,163 SCIENTISTS, LIKE YOURSELF, AND THE CDC ARE BEING UNDERMINED, 203 00:07:10,163 --> 00:07:12,933 THE CDC ARE BEING UNDERMINED, AND UNTIL RECENTLY THAT PARTS OF 204 00:07:12,933 --> 00:07:14,334 AND UNTIL RECENTLY THAT PARTS OF THE ADMINISTRATION WERE CALLING 205 00:07:14,334 --> 00:07:15,536 THE ADMINISTRATION WERE CALLING INTO QUESTION WHETHER PEOPLE 206 00:07:15,536 --> 00:07:17,004 INTO QUESTION WHETHER PEOPLE SHOULD EVEN FOLLOW BASIC BEST 207 00:07:17,004 --> 00:07:19,773 SHOULD EVEN FOLLOW BASIC BEST PRACTICES LIKE WEARING MASKS. 208 00:07:19,773 --> 00:07:21,742 PRACTICES LIKE WEARING MASKS. BUT LOOK, THE U.S. IS A 209 00:07:21,742 --> 00:07:22,376 BUT LOOK, THE U.S. IS A RESILIENT COUNTRY WITH A LOT OF 210 00:07:22,376 --> 00:07:24,377 RESILIENT COUNTRY WITH A LOT OF INGENUITY, AS YOU SAY. 211 00:07:24,377 --> 00:07:25,578 INGENUITY, AS YOU SAY. AND WE CAN’T FORGET THAT THE 212 00:07:25,578 --> 00:07:27,414 AND WE CAN’T FORGET THAT THE U.S. IS HELPING TO LEAD THE WAY 213 00:07:27,414 --> 00:07:28,047 U.S. IS HELPING TO LEAD THE WAY ON VACCINE RESEARCH WHICH I WANT 214 00:07:28,047 --> 00:07:31,151 ON VACCINE RESEARCH WHICH I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO IN A BIT. 215 00:07:31,151 --> 00:07:32,753 TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO IN A BIT. I ALSO GET THAT OUR 216 00:07:32,753 --> 00:07:33,353 I ALSO GET THAT OUR UNDERSTANDING OF FACTS CHANGES 217 00:07:33,353 --> 00:07:34,622 UNDERSTANDING OF FACTS CHANGES AS TIME GOES ON AND WE ALL HAVE 218 00:07:34,622 --> 00:07:35,556 AS TIME GOES ON AND WE ALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REASSESS WHAT 219 00:07:35,556 --> 00:07:38,725 THE OPPORTUNITY TO REASSESS WHAT WE LEARNED AND CHANGE COURSE 220 00:07:38,725 --> 00:07:39,860 WE LEARNED AND CHANGE COURSE GOING FORWARD TO IT I KNOW I TRY 221 00:07:39,860 --> 00:07:41,427 GOING FORWARD TO IT I KNOW I TRY TO DO THAT PERSONALLY AND I HOPE 222 00:07:41,427 --> 00:07:44,398 TO DO THAT PERSONALLY AND I HOPE THAT WE AS A COUNTRY CAN DO THAT 223 00:07:44,398 --> 00:07:44,665 THAT WE AS A COUNTRY CAN DO THAT NOW, TOO. 224 00:07:44,665 --> 00:07:47,768 NOW, TOO. I KNOW YOU’VE ALSO FACED SOME 225 00:07:47,768 --> 00:07:48,769 I KNOW YOU’VE ALSO FACED SOME CRITIQUE THAT YOUR GUIDANCE HAS 226 00:07:48,769 --> 00:07:52,606 CRITIQUE THAT YOUR GUIDANCE HAS EVOLVED AS WE LEARNED MORE. 227 00:07:52,606 --> 00:07:54,307 EVOLVED AS WE LEARNED MORE. I’M HOPING YOU CAN TELL US A BIT 228 00:07:54,307 --> 00:07:54,875 I’M HOPING YOU CAN TELL US A BIT MORE ABOUT HOW YOUR 229 00:07:54,875 --> 00:07:55,976 MORE ABOUT HOW YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE SHOULD 230 00:07:55,976 --> 00:07:59,445 UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE SHOULD DO HAS EVOLVED AND MAY BE SOME 231 00:07:59,445 --> 00:08:01,014 DO HAS EVOLVED AND MAY BE SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE YOUR GUIDANCE 232 00:08:01,014 --> 00:08:03,183 OF THE AREAS WHERE YOUR GUIDANCE FOR PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY 233 00:08:03,183 --> 00:08:05,386 FOR PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY HAS CHANGED. 234 00:08:05,386 --> 00:08:06,820 HAS CHANGED. >> Dr. Fauci: YEAH, I MEAN, 235 00:08:06,820 --> 00:08:08,488 >> Dr. Fauci: YEAH, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU ARE DEALING 236 00:08:08,488 --> 00:08:09,556 OBVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH SOMETHING THAT’S CHANGING 237 00:08:09,556 --> 00:08:11,291 WITH SOMETHING THAT’S CHANGING IN REAL TIME, MARK, THAT’S 238 00:08:11,291 --> 00:08:13,827 IN REAL TIME, MARK, THAT’S REALLY THE NATURE OF SCIENCE. 239 00:08:13,827 --> 00:08:15,362 REALLY THE NATURE OF SCIENCE. YOU LOOK AT THE DATA AND THE 240 00:08:15,362 --> 00:08:16,196 YOU LOOK AT THE DATA AND THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE AT ANY 241 00:08:16,196 --> 00:08:18,966 INFORMATION YOU HAVE AT ANY GIVEN TIME AND YOU MAKE A 242 00:08:18,966 --> 00:08:19,900 GIVEN TIME AND YOU MAKE A DECISION WITH REGARD TO POLICY 243 00:08:19,900 --> 00:08:21,569 DECISION WITH REGARD TO POLICY BASED ON THAT INFORMATION. 244 00:08:21,569 --> 00:08:23,036 BASED ON THAT INFORMATION. AS THE INFORMATION CHANGES, THEN 245 00:08:23,036 --> 00:08:26,173 AS THE INFORMATION CHANGES, THEN YOU HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH 246 00:08:26,173 --> 00:08:27,975 YOU HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH AND HUMBLE ENOUGH TO CHANGE HOW 247 00:08:27,975 --> 00:08:29,776 AND HUMBLE ENOUGH TO CHANGE HOW YOU THINK ABOUT THINGS. 248 00:08:29,776 --> 00:08:31,211 YOU THINK ABOUT THINGS. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF 249 00:08:31,211 --> 00:08:31,879 AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE ARE 250 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:35,683 THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE ARE EMPHASIZING RIGHT NOW THAT 251 00:08:35,683 --> 00:08:38,953 EMPHASIZING RIGHT NOW THAT REALLY EVOLVED FROM A SITUATION 252 00:08:38,953 --> 00:08:40,621 REALLY EVOLVED FROM A SITUATION THAT DID CHANGE IS OUR 253 00:08:40,621 --> 00:08:42,089 THAT DID CHANGE IS OUR INSISTENCE NOW ON WEARING MASKS. 254 00:08:42,089 --> 00:08:45,626 INSISTENCE NOW ON WEARING MASKS. I MEAN, MASKS ARE VERY 255 00:08:45,626 --> 00:08:47,327 I MEAN, MASKS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. 256 00:08:47,327 --> 00:08:48,261 IMPORTANT. THEY PROTECT YOU FROM GIVING 257 00:08:48,261 --> 00:08:48,829 THEY PROTECT YOU FROM GIVING INFECTION TO SOMEONE ELSE. 258 00:08:48,829 --> 00:08:51,832 INFECTION TO SOMEONE ELSE. IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE 259 00:08:51,832 --> 00:08:52,666 IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE INADVERTENTLY INFECTED AND I 260 00:08:52,666 --> 00:08:54,401 INADVERTENTLY INFECTED AND I WILL GET BACK TO THAT IN A 261 00:08:54,401 --> 00:08:55,369 WILL GET BACK TO THAT IN A MOMENT. 262 00:08:55,369 --> 00:08:56,904 MOMENT. BECAUSE THERE IS SUCH A 263 00:08:56,904 --> 00:08:58,538 BECAUSE THERE IS SUCH A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF THE 264 00:08:58,538 --> 00:09:00,540 SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF THE CASES THAT ARE ACTUALLY WITHOUT 265 00:09:00,540 --> 00:09:01,175 CASES THAT ARE ACTUALLY WITHOUT SYMPTOMS. 266 00:09:01,175 --> 00:09:02,909 SYMPTOMS. SO ANYONE AT ANY GIVEN TIME 267 00:09:02,909 --> 00:09:03,811 SO ANYONE AT ANY GIVEN TIME COULD BE INFECTED, DON’T EVEN 268 00:09:03,811 --> 00:09:06,347 COULD BE INFECTED, DON’T EVEN KNOW IT AND FEEL PERFECTLY WELL. 269 00:09:06,347 --> 00:09:12,987 KNOW IT AND FEEL PERFECTLY WELL. SO YOU’VE A RESPONSIBILITY. 270 00:09:12,987 --> 00:09:13,754 SO YOU’VE A RESPONSIBILITY. EARLY ON, WHEN WE WERE IN A 271 00:09:13,754 --> 00:09:16,924 EARLY ON, WHEN WE WERE IN A SITUATION IN WHICH THERE WAS A 272 00:09:16,924 --> 00:09:18,125 SITUATION IN WHICH THERE WAS A REAL CONCERN ABOUT THE LACK OF 273 00:09:18,125 --> 00:09:21,195 REAL CONCERN ABOUT THE LACK OF PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT ON 274 00:09:21,195 --> 00:09:22,129 PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT ON THE PART OF THE HEALTH PROVIDERS 275 00:09:22,129 --> 00:09:24,765 THE PART OF THE HEALTH PROVIDERS WHO NEEDED IT, WHO PUT 276 00:09:24,765 --> 00:09:28,167 WHO NEEDED IT, WHO PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM’S WAY EVERY 277 00:09:28,167 --> 00:09:29,770 THEMSELVES IN HARM’S WAY EVERY DAY TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE WHO 278 00:09:29,770 --> 00:09:31,839 DAY TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ILL WITH THIS VIRUS, THAT WE 279 00:09:31,839 --> 00:09:33,106 ARE ILL WITH THIS VIRUS, THAT WE WERE THINKING WE WOULD RUN OUT 280 00:09:33,106 --> 00:09:35,174 WERE THINKING WE WOULD RUN OUT OF MASKS AND OTHER THINGS FOR 281 00:09:35,174 --> 00:09:36,410 OF MASKS AND OTHER THINGS FOR THEM. 282 00:09:36,410 --> 00:09:37,610 THEM. SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS NOT TO 283 00:09:37,610 --> 00:09:39,780 SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS NOT TO WEAR A MASK BECAUSE OF THE 284 00:09:39,780 --> 00:09:41,214 WEAR A MASK BECAUSE OF THE SHORTAGE OF IT. 285 00:09:41,214 --> 00:09:43,082 SHORTAGE OF IT. TWO THINGS HAVEN’T MADE ONE, IT 286 00:09:43,082 --> 00:09:43,817 TWO THINGS HAVEN’T MADE ONE, IT BECAME CLEAR THAT WE HAD ENOUGH 287 00:09:43,817 --> 00:09:46,553 BECAME CLEAR THAT WE HAD ENOUGH OF THE EQUIPMENT SO THERE WAS NO 288 00:09:46,553 --> 00:09:47,387 OF THE EQUIPMENT SO THERE WAS NO SHORTAGE. 289 00:09:47,387 --> 00:09:50,190 SHORTAGE. IT BECAME CLEAR THAT CLOTH 290 00:09:50,190 --> 00:09:50,991 IT BECAME CLEAR THAT CLOTH COVERINGS THAT YOU DIDN’T HAVE 291 00:09:50,991 --> 00:09:52,825 COVERINGS THAT YOU DIDN’T HAVE TO BUY IN A STORE, THAT YOU 292 00:09:52,825 --> 00:09:54,762 TO BUY IN A STORE, THAT YOU COULD MAKE YOURSELF, WERE 293 00:09:54,762 --> 00:09:55,029 COULD MAKE YOURSELF, WERE ADEQUATE. 294 00:09:55,029 --> 00:09:56,797 ADEQUATE. AND THIRDLY AND PROBABLY THE 295 00:09:56,797 --> 00:09:59,565 AND THIRDLY AND PROBABLY THE MOST COMPELLING THING IS WHEN IT 296 00:09:59,565 --> 00:10:01,567 MOST COMPELLING THING IS WHEN IT BECAME VERY CLEAR THAT ANYWHERE 297 00:10:01,567 --> 00:10:05,605 BECAME VERY CLEAR THAT ANYWHERE FROM 20%-45% OF PEOPLE WHO ARE 298 00:10:05,605 --> 00:10:06,406 FROM 20%-45% OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INFECTED DIDN’T HAVE ANY 299 00:10:06,406 --> 00:10:07,774 INFECTED DIDN’T HAVE ANY SYMPTOMS. 300 00:10:07,774 --> 00:10:10,843 SYMPTOMS. SO THE RISK OF YOUR BEING IN 301 00:10:10,843 --> 00:10:12,012 SO THE RISK OF YOUR BEING IN CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY WHO SAID, 302 00:10:12,012 --> 00:10:14,614 CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY WHO SAID, YOU LOOK GOOD, I LOOK GOOD, WE 303 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:15,783 YOU LOOK GOOD, I LOOK GOOD, WE ARE NOT INFECTED, WAS NOT THE 304 00:10:15,783 --> 00:10:16,183 ARE NOT INFECTED, WAS NOT THE CASE. 305 00:10:16,183 --> 00:10:18,052 CASE. THAT YOU COULD BE SPREADING IT A 306 00:10:18,052 --> 00:10:18,986 THAT YOU COULD BE SPREADING IT A SYMPTOMATICALLY. 307 00:10:18,986 --> 00:10:20,153 SYMPTOMATICALLY. YOU PUT ALL THOSE THINGS 308 00:10:20,153 --> 00:10:22,222 YOU PUT ALL THOSE THINGS TOGETHER WHICH HAD US EVOLVE 309 00:10:22,222 --> 00:10:22,889 TOGETHER WHICH HAD US EVOLVE FROM SAYING MAYBE WE SHOULD HOLD 310 00:10:22,889 --> 00:10:24,958 FROM SAYING MAYBE WE SHOULD HOLD OFF ON MASKS BECAUSE WE NEEDED 311 00:10:24,958 --> 00:10:27,261 OFF ON MASKS BECAUSE WE NEEDED THEM FOR THE HEALTH CARE WORKERS 312 00:10:27,261 --> 00:10:27,894 THEM FOR THE HEALTH CARE WORKERS TO SAYING NOW, EVERYBODY SHOULD 313 00:10:27,894 --> 00:10:30,530 TO SAYING NOW, EVERYBODY SHOULD BE WEARING A MASK WHEN THEY ARE 314 00:10:30,530 --> 00:10:33,700 BE WEARING A MASK WHEN THEY ARE OUTSIDE AND SHOULD BE TRYING TO 315 00:10:33,700 --> 00:10:33,967 OUTSIDE AND SHOULD BE TRYING TO DISTANCE. 316 00:10:33,967 --> 00:10:35,569 DISTANCE. THAT’S ONE EXAMPLE OF EVOLVING 317 00:10:35,569 --> 00:10:36,603 THAT’S ONE EXAMPLE OF EVOLVING AS YOU GET MORE DATA AND YOU GET 318 00:10:36,603 --> 00:10:40,807 AS YOU GET MORE DATA AND YOU GET MORE INFORMATION. 319 00:10:40,807 --> 00:10:42,109 MORE INFORMATION. >> Mark: THAT MAKES SENSE. 320 00:10:42,109 --> 00:10:44,978 >> Mark: THAT MAKES SENSE. I’D LIKE TO DIG A BIT DEEPER 321 00:10:44,978 --> 00:10:47,680 I’D LIKE TO DIG A BIT DEEPER INTO THIS IDEA OF DOING A RESET 322 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:49,349 INTO THIS IDEA OF DOING A RESET NOW WOULD ENTAIL AND TO BE 323 00:10:49,349 --> 00:10:49,916 NOW WOULD ENTAIL AND TO BE CLEAR, YOU’RE NOT SUGGESTING 324 00:10:49,916 --> 00:10:52,953 CLEAR, YOU’RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE DO ANOTHER LOCKDOWN. 325 00:10:52,953 --> 00:10:54,654 THAT WE DO ANOTHER LOCKDOWN. SO WHAT STEPS DO YOU THINK WE 326 00:10:54,654 --> 00:10:55,489 SO WHAT STEPS DO YOU THINK WE NEED TO TAKE TO GET US UNDER 327 00:10:55,489 --> 00:10:59,526 NEED TO TAKE TO GET US UNDER CONTROL NOW? 328 00:10:59,526 --> 00:11:00,394 CONTROL NOW? >> Dr. Fauci: OKAY. 329 00:11:00,394 --> 00:11:02,161 >> Dr. Fauci: OKAY. IF YOU LOOK AT, HAD THINGS BEEN 330 00:11:02,161 --> 00:11:03,230 IF YOU LOOK AT, HAD THINGS BEEN DONE PERFECTLY, IT SHOULD HAVE 331 00:11:03,230 --> 00:11:05,432 DONE PERFECTLY, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THAT WHEREVER YOU WERE, A 332 00:11:05,432 --> 00:11:09,469 BEEN THAT WHEREVER YOU WERE, A STATE OR A CITY IN A PARTICULAR 333 00:11:09,469 --> 00:11:11,671 STATE OR A CITY IN A PARTICULAR DYNAMICS OF INFECTION OR WHERE 334 00:11:11,671 --> 00:11:12,773 DYNAMICS OF INFECTION OR WHERE YOU ARE, YOU COULD JUDGE WHERE 335 00:11:12,773 --> 00:11:17,110 YOU ARE, YOU COULD JUDGE WHERE YOU SHOULD BE, SHOULD YOU BE AT 336 00:11:17,110 --> 00:11:19,712 YOU SHOULD BE, SHOULD YOU BE AT THE GATEWAY WAITING FOR 14 DAYS 337 00:11:19,712 --> 00:11:20,713 THE GATEWAY WAITING FOR 14 DAYS GOING DOWN? 338 00:11:20,713 --> 00:11:24,118 GOING DOWN? IF SO, COULD YOU GO TO PHASE 339 00:11:24,118 --> 00:11:25,986 IF SO, COULD YOU GO TO PHASE ONE, COULD YOU GO TO PHASE TWO 340 00:11:25,986 --> 00:11:27,420 ONE, COULD YOU GO TO PHASE TWO AND THEN TO PHASE THREE? 341 00:11:27,420 --> 00:11:30,923 AND THEN TO PHASE THREE? WHEN I SAY A RESET BUTTON, I SAY 342 00:11:30,923 --> 00:11:31,992 WHEN I SAY A RESET BUTTON, I SAY OKAY, TIME OUT. 343 00:11:31,992 --> 00:11:33,092 OKAY, TIME OUT. LET’S EVERYBODY REGROUP BECAUSE 344 00:11:33,092 --> 00:11:34,261 LET’S EVERYBODY REGROUP BECAUSE IF YOU ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE 345 00:11:34,261 --> 00:11:38,098 IF YOU ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE JUMPED OVER 346 00:11:38,098 --> 00:11:40,834 YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE JUMPED OVER ONE OF THE CHECKPOINTS, YOU’VE 347 00:11:40,834 --> 00:11:43,904 ONE OF THE CHECKPOINTS, YOU’VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT PULLING BACK, 348 00:11:43,904 --> 00:11:46,205 GOT TO THINK ABOUT PULLING BACK, STARTING OVER AGAIN AND DOING 349 00:11:46,205 --> 00:11:49,509 STARTING OVER AGAIN AND DOING THE GRADUAL ENTRY INTO 350 00:11:49,509 --> 00:11:51,044 THE GRADUAL ENTRY INTO "NORMALITY" IN A WAY THAT’S IN 351 00:11:51,044 --> 00:11:54,947 "NORMALITY" IN A WAY THAT’S IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GUIDELINES. 352 00:11:54,947 --> 00:11:56,917 ACCORDANCE WITH THE GUIDELINES. NUMBER TWO, IF, IN FACT, YOU ARE 353 00:11:56,917 --> 00:11:59,486 NUMBER TWO, IF, IN FACT, YOU ARE IN THAT, YOU’VE GOT TO BE REALLY 354 00:11:59,486 --> 00:12:01,254 IN THAT, YOU’VE GOT TO BE REALLY VERY CAREFUL THAT YOUR CITIZEN 355 00:12:01,254 --> 00:12:04,158 VERY CAREFUL THAT YOUR CITIZEN TREE UNDERSTANDS THE IMPORTANCE 356 00:12:04,158 --> 00:12:05,993 TREE UNDERSTANDS THE IMPORTANCE OF ABIDING BY THESE GUIDELINES. 357 00:12:05,993 --> 00:12:07,994 OF ABIDING BY THESE GUIDELINES. YOU HAVE TO WEAR A MASK, WHETHER 358 00:12:07,994 --> 00:12:08,828 YOU HAVE TO WEAR A MASK, WHETHER THAT MASK IS MANDATED, WHETHER 359 00:12:08,828 --> 00:12:13,567 THAT MASK IS MANDATED, WHETHER IT CAN BE FEASIBLY, LOCALLY 360 00:12:13,567 --> 00:12:14,367 IT CAN BE FEASIBLY, LOCALLY MANDATED, I WOULD RECOMMEND AS 361 00:12:14,367 --> 00:12:17,704 MANDATED, I WOULD RECOMMEND AS STRONG AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN TO 362 00:12:17,704 --> 00:12:20,340 STRONG AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN TO GET PEOLE TO WEAR MASKS. 363 00:12:20,340 --> 00:12:24,411 GET PEOLE TO WEAR MASKS. TO AVOID CROWDS, TO KEEP 364 00:12:24,411 --> 00:12:25,278 TO AVOID CROWDS, TO KEEP DISTANCES, OUTDOORS ALWAYS 365 00:12:25,278 --> 00:12:27,114 DISTANCES, OUTDOORS ALWAYS BETTER THAN INDOORS. 366 00:12:27,114 --> 00:12:28,549 BETTER THAN INDOORS. SO WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT THE 367 00:12:28,549 --> 00:12:29,216 SO WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT THE KINDS OF RECOMMENDATIONS, THAT’S 368 00:12:29,216 --> 00:12:31,684 KINDS OF RECOMMENDATIONS, THAT’S WHAT YOU GOT TO DO. 369 00:12:31,684 --> 00:12:32,985 WHAT YOU GOT TO DO. QUITE FRANKLY, IF YOU LOOK AT 370 00:12:32,985 --> 00:12:36,356 QUITE FRANKLY, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THAT HASN’T BEEN DONE IN 371 00:12:36,356 --> 00:12:38,392 IT, THAT HASN’T BEEN DONE IN EVERY SINGLE INSTANCE SO WE’VE 372 00:12:38,392 --> 00:12:39,792 EVERY SINGLE INSTANCE SO WE’VE GOT TO GO BACK AND RE-LOOK AT 373 00:12:39,792 --> 00:12:43,296 GOT TO GO BACK AND RE-LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE DOING AND RE-ENTER. 374 00:12:43,296 --> 00:12:45,498 WHAT WE ARE DOING AND RE-ENTER. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT 375 00:12:45,498 --> 00:12:47,501 THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN THIS UNUSUAL AND 376 00:12:47,501 --> 00:12:51,304 THERE HAS BEEN THIS UNUSUAL AND UNFORTUNATE MIND-SET OF PUBLIC 377 00:12:51,304 --> 00:12:52,940 UNFORTUNATE MIND-SET OF PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES AND GETTING THE 378 00:12:52,940 --> 00:12:53,507 HEALTH MEASURES AND GETTING THE ECONOMY BACK. 379 00:12:53,507 --> 00:12:56,542 ECONOMY BACK. THESE ARE TWO OPPOSING FORCES. 380 00:12:56,542 --> 00:12:58,177 THESE ARE TWO OPPOSING FORCES. AS I’VE SAID SO OFTEN AND I WANT 381 00:12:58,177 --> 00:13:00,180 AS I’VE SAID SO OFTEN AND I WANT TO REPEAT IT WITH YOU HERE, IS 382 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:02,616 TO REPEAT IT WITH YOU HERE, IS THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT 383 00:13:02,616 --> 00:13:05,185 THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES AS A 384 00:13:05,185 --> 00:13:07,053 PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES AS A VEHICLE OR A GATEWAY TO OPENING 385 00:13:07,053 --> 00:13:09,556 VEHICLE OR A GATEWAY TO OPENING THE COUNTRY AGAIN, TO GETTING 386 00:13:09,556 --> 00:13:11,258 THE COUNTRY AGAIN, TO GETTING THE ECONOMY BACK, NOT AS THE 387 00:13:11,258 --> 00:13:12,692 THE ECONOMY BACK, NOT AS THE OBSTACLE IN THE WAY BUT AS A 388 00:13:12,692 --> 00:13:16,129 OBSTACLE IN THE WAY BUT AS A GATEWAY AND IF WE DO IT IN A 389 00:13:16,129 --> 00:13:17,931 GATEWAY AND IF WE DO IT IN A MEASURED WAY, I STRONGLY BELIEVE 390 00:13:17,931 --> 00:13:20,233 MEASURED WAY, I STRONGLY BELIEVE WE CAN TURN THIS AROUND IN THE 391 00:13:20,233 --> 00:13:20,867 WE CAN TURN THIS AROUND IN THE SOUTHERN STATES THAT ARE GETTING 392 00:13:20,867 --> 00:13:24,171 SOUTHERN STATES THAT ARE GETTING HIT RIGHT NOW AND WE CAN PREVENT 393 00:13:24,171 --> 00:13:27,407 HIT RIGHT NOW AND WE CAN PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING IN STATES THAT 394 00:13:27,407 --> 00:13:28,875 IT FROM HAPPENING IN STATES THAT ARE STILL AT THAT POINT OF 395 00:13:28,875 --> 00:13:29,844 ARE STILL AT THAT POINT OF TRYING TO OPEN UP. 396 00:13:29,844 --> 00:13:33,480 TRYING TO OPEN UP. YOU’VE GOT TO DO IT CORRECTLY, 397 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,749 YOU’VE GOT TO DO IT CORRECTLY, YOU CAN’T JUMP OVER STEPS WHICH 398 00:13:36,749 --> 00:13:37,884 YOU CAN’T JUMP OVER STEPS WHICH IS VERY PERILOUS WHEN YOU THINK 399 00:13:37,884 --> 00:13:38,251 IS VERY PERILOUS WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT REBOUND. 400 00:13:38,251 --> 00:13:46,227 ABOUT REBOUND. INTO THE PROOF AND THE PUTTING P 401 00:13:46,227 --> 00:13:46,593 INTO THE PROOF AND THE PUTTING P WHAT’S HAPPENED. 402 00:13:46,593 --> 00:13:49,162 WHAT’S HAPPENED. THERE’S NO REASON THAT WE ARE 403 00:13:49,162 --> 00:13:51,231 THERE’S NO REASON THAT WE ARE HAVING 40, 50, 60,000 OTHER THAN 404 00:13:51,231 --> 00:13:51,698 HAVING 40, 50, 60,000 OTHER THAN WE ARE NOT DOING SEVEN 405 00:13:51,698 --> 00:13:51,964 WE ARE NOT DOING SEVEN CORRECTLY. 406 00:13:51,964 --> 00:13:54,967 CORRECTLY. >> Mark: YEAH, THAT MAKES A 407 00:13:54,967 --> 00:13:55,635 >> Mark: YEAH, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. 408 00:13:55,635 --> 00:13:59,872 LOT OF SENSE. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, I 409 00:13:59,872 --> 00:14:01,641 SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, I WANT TO GET TO YOUR GUIDANCE FOR 410 00:14:01,641 --> 00:14:04,044 WANT TO GET TO YOUR GUIDANCE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE SPECIFICALLY WHO 411 00:14:04,044 --> 00:14:06,345 YOUNG PEOPLE SPECIFICALLY WHO ARE A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF HOW 412 00:14:06,345 --> 00:14:08,015 ARE A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF HOW WE SLOW THE SPREAD OF THIS AND I 413 00:14:08,015 --> 00:14:08,682 WE SLOW THE SPREAD OF THIS AND I KNOW A LOT OF YOUNGER PEOPLE ARE 414 00:14:08,682 --> 00:14:12,353 KNOW A LOT OF YOUNGER PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW AND I 415 00:14:12,353 --> 00:14:13,720 WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE THE LAST TIME 416 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,290 KNOW THIS BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE DID A LIVE VIDEO, ALL THE 417 00:14:16,290 --> 00:14:18,258 WE DID A LIVE VIDEO, ALL THE STREAMS REVIEWED MORE THAN 418 00:14:18,258 --> 00:14:20,560 STREAMS REVIEWED MORE THAN 50 MILLION TIMES, INCLUDING BY A 419 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:21,328 50 MILLION TIMES, INCLUDING BY A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE. 420 00:14:21,328 --> 00:14:22,595 LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE. AND YOUNG PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE 421 00:14:22,595 --> 00:14:24,164 AND YOUNG PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE REALLY CRITICAL TO GETTING THIS 422 00:14:24,164 --> 00:14:25,165 REALLY CRITICAL TO GETTING THIS RIGHT BECAUSE A LOT OF THE NEW 423 00:14:25,165 --> 00:14:29,303 RIGHT BECAUSE A LOT OF THE NEW CASES ARE YOUNG FOLKS. 424 00:14:29,303 --> 00:14:31,438 CASES ARE YOUNG FOLKS. SO WHAT SHOULD YOUNG PEOPLE BE 425 00:14:31,438 --> 00:14:32,605 SO WHAT SHOULD YOUNG PEOPLE BE DOING TO STAY HEALTHY? 426 00:14:32,605 --> 00:14:33,839 DOING TO STAY HEALTHY? AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN 427 00:14:33,839 --> 00:14:35,976 AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN KEEP THE PEOPLE AROUND THEM 428 00:14:35,976 --> 00:14:37,744 KEEP THE PEOPLE AROUND THEM HEALTHY? 429 00:14:37,744 --> 00:14:38,744 HEALTHY? >> Dr. Fauci: MARK, THANK YOU 430 00:14:38,744 --> 00:14:39,713 >> Dr. Fauci: MARK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ASKING THAT 431 00:14:39,713 --> 00:14:40,981 VERY MUCH FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK IT’S 432 00:14:40,981 --> 00:14:41,715 QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK IT’S CRITICAL TO EVERYTHING THAT’S 433 00:14:41,715 --> 00:14:43,583 CRITICAL TO EVERYTHING THAT’S GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN THE 434 00:14:43,583 --> 00:14:43,984 GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN THE COUNTRY. 435 00:14:43,984 --> 00:14:45,986 COUNTRY. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT’S GOING ON 436 00:14:45,986 --> 00:14:47,354 IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT’S GOING ON WITH THE NEW INFECTIONS, THE AGE 437 00:14:47,354 --> 00:14:50,157 WITH THE NEW INFECTIONS, THE AGE RANGE OF THE INFECTION, THE 438 00:14:50,157 --> 00:14:51,158 RANGE OF THE INFECTION, THE MEDIAN AGE IS ABOUT A DECADE AND 439 00:14:51,158 --> 00:14:54,461 MEDIAN AGE IS ABOUT A DECADE AND A HALF YOUNGER TODAY THAN IT WAS 440 00:14:54,461 --> 00:14:57,530 A HALF YOUNGER TODAY THAN IT WAS A FEW MONTHS AGO. 441 00:14:57,530 --> 00:14:59,398 A FEW MONTHS AGO. SO YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, 442 00:14:59,398 --> 00:15:01,568 SO YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, YOUNG PEOPLE ARE INTIMATELY AND 443 00:15:01,568 --> 00:15:03,537 YOUNG PEOPLE ARE INTIMATELY AND HEAVILY INVOLVED IN WHAT’S GOING 444 00:15:03,537 --> 00:15:04,338 HEAVILY INVOLVED IN WHAT’S GOING ON NOW WITH THIS PANDEMIC. 445 00:15:04,338 --> 00:15:06,673 ON NOW WITH THIS PANDEMIC. SO LET ME JUST SAY ONE THING AND 446 00:15:06,673 --> 00:15:08,875 SO LET ME JUST SAY ONE THING AND ADDRESS IT TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE 447 00:15:08,875 --> 00:15:10,811 ADDRESS IT TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS. 448 00:15:10,811 --> 00:15:12,879 WHO ARE WATCHING THIS. IT’S TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE THAT 449 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:17,017 IT’S TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE THAT YOU SEE THE DATA, YOUNG PEOPLE 450 00:15:17,017 --> 00:15:18,318 YOU SEE THE DATA, YOUNG PEOPLE ARE SMART, THEY KNOW WHAT DATA 451 00:15:18,318 --> 00:15:19,119 ARE SMART, THEY KNOW WHAT DATA MEANS END OF THE DATA TELLS US 452 00:15:19,119 --> 00:15:21,821 MEANS END OF THE DATA TELLS US THAT IF YOU’RE A YOUNG PERSON, 453 00:15:21,821 --> 00:15:23,390 THAT IF YOU’RE A YOUNG PERSON, THE LIKELIHOOD WHEN YOU GET 454 00:15:23,390 --> 00:15:25,492 THE LIKELIHOOD WHEN YOU GET INFECTED OF GETTING SERIOUSLY 455 00:15:25,492 --> 00:15:30,130 INFECTED OF GETTING SERIOUSLY ILL IS MUCH LESS THAN AN OLDER 456 00:15:30,130 --> 00:15:32,366 ILL IS MUCH LESS THAN AN OLDER PERSON, THE ELDERLY, OR PEOPLE 457 00:15:32,366 --> 00:15:32,932 PERSON, THE ELDERLY, OR PEOPLE WITH UNDERLYING CONDITIONS. 458 00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:35,369 WITH UNDERLYING CONDITIONS. THAT’S JUST THE TRUTH. 459 00:15:35,369 --> 00:15:36,736 THAT’S JUST THE TRUTH. THAT DOESN’T MEAN THAT SOME 460 00:15:36,736 --> 00:15:38,105 THAT DOESN’T MEAN THAT SOME YOUNG PEOPLE AND WE HAVE AMPLE 461 00:15:38,105 --> 00:15:39,839 YOUNG PEOPLE AND WE HAVE AMPLE EXAMPLES OF THAT, WHO ARE YOUNG 462 00:15:39,839 --> 00:15:42,142 EXAMPLES OF THAT, WHO ARE YOUNG AND OTHERWISE HEALTHY, CAN GET 463 00:15:42,142 --> 00:15:43,776 AND OTHERWISE HEALTHY, CAN GET SERIOUSLY ILL, REALLY SERIOUSLY 464 00:15:43,776 --> 00:15:43,943 SERIOUSLY ILL, REALLY SERIOUSLY ILL. 465 00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:47,346 ILL. OR CAN BE KNOCKED OUT ON THEIR 466 00:15:47,346 --> 00:15:48,181 OR CAN BE KNOCKED OUT ON THEIR BACK AND BROUGHT TO THEIR KNEES 467 00:15:48,181 --> 00:15:50,917 BACK AND BROUGHT TO THEIR KNEES PRETTY QUICKLY. 468 00:15:50,917 --> 00:15:52,985 PRETTY QUICKLY. BUT LET’S TAKE THE MAJORITY OF 469 00:15:52,985 --> 00:15:54,120 BUT LET’S TAKE THE MAJORITY OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO GET INFECTED 470 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,156 YOUNG PEOPLE WHO GET INFECTED AND DON’T EVEN KNOW THEY ARE 471 00:15:56,156 --> 00:15:56,923 AND DON’T EVEN KNOW THEY ARE INFECTED. 472 00:15:56,923 --> 00:15:59,326 INFECTED. YOU CAN GET THE MIND-SET, WELL, 473 00:15:59,326 --> 00:16:00,393 YOU CAN GET THE MIND-SET, WELL, LISTEN, IF I’M INFECTED I DON’T 474 00:16:00,393 --> 00:16:01,961 LISTEN, IF I’M INFECTED I DON’T KNOW I’M INFECTED, I’M NOT 475 00:16:01,961 --> 00:16:03,496 KNOW I’M INFECTED, I’M NOT FEELING SICK, WHO CARES? 476 00:16:03,496 --> 00:16:05,465 FEELING SICK, WHO CARES? I’M NOT BOTHERING ANYBODY ELSE. 477 00:16:05,465 --> 00:16:09,602 I’M NOT BOTHERING ANYBODY ELSE. THAT IS INCORRECT BECAUSE BY 478 00:16:09,602 --> 00:16:10,102 THAT IS INCORRECT BECAUSE BY ALLOWING YOURSELF TO GET 479 00:16:10,102 --> 00:16:14,040 ALLOWING YOURSELF TO GET INFECTED YOU ARE PROPAGATING THE 480 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:14,307 INFECTED YOU ARE PROPAGATING THE PANDEMIC. 481 00:16:14,307 --> 00:16:15,642 PANDEMIC. AND LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT I MEAN 482 00:16:15,642 --> 00:16:17,911 AND LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT I MEAN BY PROPAGATING IT. 483 00:16:17,911 --> 00:16:19,379 BY PROPAGATING IT. YOU CAN’T THINK OF YOURSELF IN A 484 00:16:19,379 --> 00:16:21,581 YOU CAN’T THINK OF YOURSELF IN A VACUUM BECAUSE IF YOU GET 485 00:16:21,581 --> 00:16:22,716 VACUUM BECAUSE IF YOU GET INFECTED AND YOU DON’T KNOW IT, 486 00:16:22,716 --> 00:16:25,585 INFECTED AND YOU DON’T KNOW IT, THEN YOU’RE GOING TO MAKE 487 00:16:25,585 --> 00:16:26,620 THEN YOU’RE GOING TO MAKE INNOCENTLY, AND I WILL USE THE 488 00:16:26,620 --> 00:16:27,587 INNOCENTLY, AND I WILL USE THE WORD INNOCENTLY BECAUSE I DON’T 489 00:16:27,587 --> 00:16:30,489 WORD INNOCENTLY BECAUSE I DON’T THINK THERE’S ANY MALICE HERE, 490 00:16:30,489 --> 00:16:31,023 THINK THERE’S ANY MALICE HERE, YOU CAN INNOCENTLY INFECT 491 00:16:31,023 --> 00:16:33,326 YOU CAN INNOCENTLY INFECT SOMEONE ELSE WHO THEN MIGHT 492 00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:33,959 SOMEONE ELSE WHO THEN MIGHT INFECT SOMEONE ELSE AND THEN ALL 493 00:16:33,959 --> 00:16:39,265 INFECT SOMEONE ELSE AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN A VULNERABLE PERSON, 494 00:16:39,265 --> 00:16:40,967 OF A SUDDEN A VULNERABLE PERSON, AN ELDERLY PERSON, A PERSON WHO 495 00:16:40,967 --> 00:16:41,802 AN ELDERLY PERSON, A PERSON WHO IS IMMUNOSUPPRESSED, A CHILD 496 00:16:41,802 --> 00:16:44,737 IS IMMUNOSUPPRESSED, A CHILD WITH CANCER ON CHEMOTHERAPY, 497 00:16:44,737 --> 00:16:46,540 WITH CANCER ON CHEMOTHERAPY, WHEN THEY GET INFECTED THEN YOU 498 00:16:46,540 --> 00:16:47,907 WHEN THEY GET INFECTED THEN YOU HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM. 499 00:16:47,907 --> 00:16:50,176 HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM. SO WHAT I WOULD URGE AND ALMOST 500 00:16:50,176 --> 00:16:50,810 SO WHAT I WOULD URGE AND ALMOST PLEADED WITH THE YOUNGER PEOPLE 501 00:16:50,810 --> 00:16:53,380 PLEADED WITH THE YOUNGER PEOPLE BECAUSE I KNOW IF THEY REALLY 502 00:16:53,380 --> 00:16:54,481 BECAUSE I KNOW IF THEY REALLY UNDERSTOOD THIS THEY WOULD TAKE 503 00:16:54,481 --> 00:16:56,483 UNDERSTOOD THIS THEY WOULD TAKE IT SERIOUSLY, THAT YOU HAVE TO 504 00:16:56,483 --> 00:16:59,653 IT SERIOUSLY, THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELF 505 00:16:59,653 --> 00:17:01,988 HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELF BUT ALSO A SOCIETAL 506 00:17:01,988 --> 00:17:03,757 BUT ALSO A SOCIETAL RESPONSIBILITY THAT YOU’RE 507 00:17:03,757 --> 00:17:06,993 RESPONSIBILITY THAT YOU’RE GETTING INFECTED IS NOT JUST YOU 508 00:17:06,993 --> 00:17:07,360 GETTING INFECTED IS NOT JUST YOU AND A VACUUM. 509 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:10,964 AND A VACUUM. YOUR PROPAGATING A PANDEMIC. 510 00:17:10,964 --> 00:17:12,933 YOUR PROPAGATING A PANDEMIC. SO WHEN I SEE THE PICTURES OF 511 00:17:12,933 --> 00:17:14,568 SO WHEN I SEE THE PICTURES OF PEOPLE AT BARS ENJOYING 512 00:17:14,568 --> 00:17:15,001 PEOPLE AT BARS ENJOYING THEMSELVES, TOTALLY 513 00:17:15,001 --> 00:17:15,801 THEMSELVES, TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE, I GET THAT, I 514 00:17:15,801 --> 00:17:18,505 UNDERSTANDABLE, I GET THAT, I WAS THERE AT ONE POINT IN MY 515 00:17:18,505 --> 00:17:18,738 WAS THERE AT ONE POINT IN MY LIFE. 516 00:17:18,738 --> 00:17:20,539 LIFE. OR SEE PEOPLE IN CROWDS AND YOU 517 00:17:20,539 --> 00:17:23,610 OR SEE PEOPLE IN CROWDS AND YOU SAY, WELL, THEY THINK THEY’RE 518 00:17:23,610 --> 00:17:26,479 SAY, WELL, THEY THINK THEY’RE NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT IS 519 00:17:26,479 --> 00:17:27,580 NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT IS PARTICULARLY HARMFUL BUT THEY 520 00:17:27,580 --> 00:17:28,582 PARTICULARLY HARMFUL BUT THEY MIGHT BE. 521 00:17:28,582 --> 00:17:33,186 MIGHT BE. IS, CONSIDER YOUR RESPONSIBILITY 522 00:17:33,186 --> 00:17:35,855 IS, CONSIDER YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO YOURSELF BUT ALSO THE 523 00:17:35,855 --> 00:17:37,991 TO YOURSELF BUT ALSO THE SOCIETAL RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE 524 00:17:37,991 --> 00:17:40,227 SOCIETAL RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE THE SOONER WE PUT THIS DOWN, THE 525 00:17:40,227 --> 00:17:42,529 THE SOONER WE PUT THIS DOWN, THE SOONER YOU’RE GOING TO GET BACK 526 00:17:42,529 --> 00:17:44,832 SOONER YOU’RE GOING TO GET BACK TO NORMAL AND YOU’LL BE ABLE TO 527 00:17:44,832 --> 00:17:46,833 TO NORMAL AND YOU’LL BE ABLE TO FREELY HAVE FUN, GO TO THE BARS, 528 00:17:46,833 --> 00:17:47,200 FREELY HAVE FUN, GO TO THE BARS, GO WITH CROWDS. 529 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,136 GO WITH CROWDS. BUT NOT NOW. 530 00:17:49,136 --> 00:17:53,974 BUT NOT NOW. NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO DO THAT. 531 00:17:53,974 --> 00:17:54,741 NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO DO THAT. >> Mark: YEAH. 532 00:17:54,741 --> 00:17:56,110 >> Mark: YEAH. AND I WANT TO PUSH ON THIS POINT 533 00:17:56,110 --> 00:17:58,110 AND I WANT TO PUSH ON THIS POINT A BIT MORE BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED 534 00:17:58,110 --> 00:18:00,513 A BIT MORE BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THAT YOUNG FOLKS CAN GET SICK, 535 00:18:00,513 --> 00:18:00,980 THAT YOUNG FOLKS CAN GET SICK, TOO. 536 00:18:00,980 --> 00:18:03,917 TOO. WE’RE FOCUSING A LOT ON HOW 537 00:18:03,917 --> 00:18:04,817 WE’RE FOCUSING A LOT ON HOW YOUNG PEOPLE RISK SPREADING 538 00:18:04,817 --> 00:18:05,285 YOUNG PEOPLE RISK SPREADING COVID TO MORE PEOPLE. 539 00:18:05,285 --> 00:18:08,487 COVID TO MORE PEOPLE. BUT FOR THE PEOPLE I KNOW, IT 540 00:18:08,487 --> 00:18:10,023 BUT FOR THE PEOPLE I KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE GETTING COVID, EVEN 541 00:18:10,023 --> 00:18:11,891 SEEMS LIKE GETTING COVID, EVEN IF YOU’RE YOUNG, IS AN 542 00:18:11,891 --> 00:18:12,492 IF YOU’RE YOUNG, IS AN ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL EXPERIENCE. 543 00:18:12,492 --> 00:18:13,727 ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL EXPERIENCE. A LOT OF PEOPLE GET SICK FOR 544 00:18:13,727 --> 00:18:14,360 A LOT OF PEOPLE GET SICK FOR WEEKS OR CAN BE SIX FOR MONTHS 545 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:18,398 WEEKS OR CAN BE SIX FOR MONTHS AT A TIME AND WE DON’T KNOW YET 546 00:18:18,398 --> 00:18:19,799 AT A TIME AND WE DON’T KNOW YET WHAT THE LONG-TERM SIDE EFFECTS 547 00:18:19,799 --> 00:18:19,966 WHAT THE LONG-TERM SIDE EFFECTS ARE. 548 00:18:19,966 --> 00:18:20,967 ARE. SO I’M CURIOUS IF YOU CAN JUST 549 00:18:20,967 --> 00:18:23,303 SO I’M CURIOUS IF YOU CAN JUST TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT 550 00:18:23,303 --> 00:18:24,304 TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, ABOUT THAT PART OF IT FOR 551 00:18:24,304 --> 00:18:29,175 MORE, ABOUT THAT PART OF IT FOR YOUNG FOLKS AS WELL, WHAT WE 552 00:18:29,175 --> 00:18:30,109 YOUNG FOLKS AS WELL, WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR ABOUT HOW COVID 553 00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:33,879 KNOW SO FAR ABOUT HOW COVID AFFECTS YOUNGER PEOPLE AND YEAH, 554 00:18:33,879 --> 00:18:34,747 AFFECTS YOUNGER PEOPLE AND YEAH, MAYBE JUST A DRESS THAT SET OF 555 00:18:34,747 --> 00:18:37,951 MAYBE JUST A DRESS THAT SET OF ISSUES A LITTLE BIT MORE AS WELL 556 00:18:37,951 --> 00:18:38,150 ISSUES A LITTLE BIT MORE AS WELL WELL. 557 00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:39,885 WELL. >> Dr. Fauci: I MEAN, THERE 558 00:18:39,885 --> 00:18:40,986 >> Dr. Fauci: I MEAN, THERE ARE COUNTLESS EXAMPLES, 559 00:18:40,986 --> 00:18:41,620 ARE COUNTLESS EXAMPLES, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. 560 00:18:41,620 --> 00:18:46,793 THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. AS I’VE OFTEN SAID, I’VE BEEN 561 00:18:46,793 --> 00:18:48,895 AS I’VE OFTEN SAID, I’VE BEEN CHASING VIRUSES AND GOING AFTER 562 00:18:48,895 --> 00:18:49,395 CHASING VIRUSES AND GOING AFTER OUTBREAKS FOR DECADES. 563 00:18:49,395 --> 00:18:53,366 OUTBREAKS FOR DECADES. I’VE NEVER SEEN AN INFECTION 564 00:18:53,366 --> 00:18:54,434 I’VE NEVER SEEN AN INFECTION WITH THIS BROADER RANGE OF 565 00:18:54,434 --> 00:18:58,939 WITH THIS BROADER RANGE OF MANIFESTATIONS, FROM NOTHING IN 566 00:18:58,939 --> 00:19:00,539 MANIFESTATIONS, FROM NOTHING IN 20%, 45%, TO GETTING 6-SICK FOR 567 00:19:00,539 --> 00:19:02,575 20%, 45%, TO GETTING 6-SICK FOR A FEW DAYS TO GETTING KNOCKED 568 00:19:02,575 --> 00:19:06,279 A FEW DAYS TO GETTING KNOCKED OUT, LITERALLY AT HOME IN BED 569 00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:08,114 OUT, LITERALLY AT HOME IN BED FEELING HORRIBLE AND EVEN 570 00:19:08,114 --> 00:19:09,316 FEELING HORRIBLE AND EVEN POST-INFECTION SYNDROMES TO 571 00:19:09,316 --> 00:19:10,083 POST-INFECTION SYNDROMES TO MAYBE IN THE HOSPITAL, INTENSIVE 572 00:19:10,083 --> 00:19:11,751 MAYBE IN THE HOSPITAL, INTENSIVE CARE AND DEATH. 573 00:19:11,751 --> 00:19:13,320 CARE AND DEATH. IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS, 574 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,324 IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS, LIKE YOU SAID, YOUNG PEOPLE ARE 575 00:19:17,324 --> 00:19:18,525 LIKE YOU SAID, YOUNG PEOPLE ARE HEAVILY WEIGHTED TOWARD HIS NOT 576 00:19:18,525 --> 00:19:19,292 HEAVILY WEIGHTED TOWARD HIS NOT GETTING SERIOUSLY IMPACTED BUT 577 00:19:19,292 --> 00:19:21,361 GETTING SERIOUSLY IMPACTED BUT BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, 578 00:19:21,361 --> 00:19:24,531 BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, WHAT YOU MEAN BY SERIOUSLY ILL? 579 00:19:24,531 --> 00:19:26,299 WHAT YOU MEAN BY SERIOUSLY ILL? MANY, MANY YOUNG PEOPLE WHO GET 580 00:19:26,299 --> 00:19:28,133 MANY, MANY YOUNG PEOPLE WHO GET INFECTED, THEY GET SICK, THEY 581 00:19:28,133 --> 00:19:29,603 INFECTED, THEY GET SICK, THEY FEEL HORRIBLE FOR WEEKS AND 582 00:19:29,603 --> 00:19:30,970 FEEL HORRIBLE FOR WEEKS AND WEEKS AND THEN ONE THING THEY 583 00:19:30,970 --> 00:19:32,606 WEEKS AND THEN ONE THING THEY NOTICE AND WE ARE GETTING A LOT 584 00:19:32,606 --> 00:19:35,475 NOTICE AND WE ARE GETTING A LOT MORE INFORMATION ON THIS, THAT 585 00:19:35,475 --> 00:19:36,208 MORE INFORMATION ON THIS, THAT EVEN WHEN THEY CLEAR THE VIRUS 586 00:19:36,208 --> 00:19:39,746 EVEN WHEN THEY CLEAR THE VIRUS AND THEY TEST NEGATIVE AND THEY 587 00:19:39,746 --> 00:19:42,582 AND THEY TEST NEGATIVE AND THEY DON’T HAVE ANY VIRUS, THEY CAN 588 00:19:42,582 --> 00:19:46,285 DON’T HAVE ANY VIRUS, THEY CAN FEEL OUT OF SORTS FOR WEEKS AND 589 00:19:46,285 --> 00:19:50,356 FEEL OUT OF SORTS FOR WEEKS AND WEEKS, ALMOST SIMILAR TO TO A 590 00:19:50,356 --> 00:19:52,058 WEEKS, ALMOST SIMILAR TO TO A MYALGIA ENCEPHALITIS, CHRONIC 591 00:19:52,058 --> 00:19:52,825 MYALGIA ENCEPHALITIS, CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME THING WHERE 592 00:19:52,825 --> 00:19:53,559 FATIGUE SYNDROME THING WHERE THEY JUST DON’T FEEL RIGHT FOR 593 00:19:53,559 --> 00:19:56,462 THEY JUST DON’T FEEL RIGHT FOR WEEKS AND WEEKS AND WEEKS. 594 00:19:56,462 --> 00:19:59,099 WEEKS AND WEEKS AND WEEKS. SO THIS IS NOT AN INFECTION TO 595 00:19:59,099 --> 00:19:59,431 SO THIS IS NOT AN INFECTION TO TAKE LIGHTLY. 596 00:19:59,431 --> 00:20:02,168 TAKE LIGHTLY. EVEN WITH YOUNG PEOPLE, EVEN 597 00:20:02,168 --> 00:20:05,104 EVEN WITH YOUNG PEOPLE, EVEN WITH YOUNG PEOPLE. 598 00:20:05,104 --> 00:20:07,073 WITH YOUNG PEOPLE. >> Mark: AND WHAT DO WE KNOW 599 00:20:07,073 --> 00:20:08,074 >> Mark: AND WHAT DO WE KNOW SO FAR ABOUT LONG-TERM SIDE 600 00:20:08,074 --> 00:20:08,675 SO FAR ABOUT LONG-TERM SIDE EFFECTS? 601 00:20:08,675 --> 00:20:09,708 EFFECTS? DO WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS 602 00:20:09,708 --> 00:20:10,644 DO WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS YET OR DO WE JUST AND WE NEED TO 603 00:20:10,644 --> 00:20:13,313 YET OR DO WE JUST AND WE NEED TO WATCH HOW THIS PLAYS OUT FOR 604 00:20:13,313 --> 00:20:13,913 WATCH HOW THIS PLAYS OUT FOR LONGER BEFORE WE’RE GOING TO 605 00:20:13,913 --> 00:20:16,416 LONGER BEFORE WE’RE GOING TO KNOW IF THERE IS SIGNIFICANT 606 00:20:16,416 --> 00:20:18,684 KNOW IF THERE IS SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO ORGANS OR ANYTHING 607 00:20:18,684 --> 00:20:21,954 DAMAGE TO ORGANS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO WORRY 608 00:20:21,954 --> 00:20:22,155 ELSE THAT WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT? 609 00:20:22,155 --> 00:20:23,489 ABOUT? >> Dr. Fauci: I THINK HIT THE 610 00:20:23,489 --> 00:20:26,092 >> Dr. Fauci: I THINK HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD, IT’S GOING TO 611 00:20:26,092 --> 00:20:26,660 NAIL ON THE HEAD, IT’S GOING TO BE TIME. 612 00:20:26,660 --> 00:20:28,027 BE TIME. WE’VE GOT TO WAIT AND SEE IN THE 613 00:20:28,027 --> 00:20:28,395 WE’VE GOT TO WAIT AND SEE IN THE LONG RANGE. 614 00:20:28,395 --> 00:20:32,197 LONG RANGE. IF YOU LOOK AT LIKELIHOOD AND 615 00:20:32,197 --> 00:20:32,832 IF YOU LOOK AT LIKELIHOOD AND INITIAL EXPERIENCE, FOR PEOPLE 616 00:20:32,832 --> 00:20:36,336 INITIAL EXPERIENCE, FOR PEOPLE WHO GET SICK AND MAY BE ARE OUT 617 00:20:36,336 --> 00:20:37,503 WHO GET SICK AND MAY BE ARE OUT FOR A FEW DAYS, THEY GET A 618 00:20:37,503 --> 00:20:40,774 FOR A FEW DAYS, THEY GET A SNIFFLE, A LITTLE SORE THROAT, 619 00:20:40,774 --> 00:20:42,342 SNIFFLE, A LITTLE SORE THROAT, THE VIRUS TENDS TO STAY IN THE 620 00:20:42,342 --> 00:20:43,643 THE VIRUS TENDS TO STAY IN THE UPPER AIRWAY, MAYBE A LITTLE 621 00:20:43,643 --> 00:20:46,112 UPPER AIRWAY, MAYBE A LITTLE SHORT OF BREATH AND THEN THERE 622 00:20:46,112 --> 00:20:46,979 SHORT OF BREATH AND THEN THERE GOOD, THEY GET BETTER AND 623 00:20:46,979 --> 00:20:47,780 GOOD, THEY GET BETTER AND THEY’RE FINE. 624 00:20:47,780 --> 00:20:49,949 THEY’RE FINE. IT IS VERY UNLIKELY THAT THOSE 625 00:20:49,949 --> 00:20:51,484 IT IS VERY UNLIKELY THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO HAVE 626 00:20:51,484 --> 00:20:54,320 INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO HAVE ANY CHRONIC LONG-TERM ISSUE. 627 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:54,987 ANY CHRONIC LONG-TERM ISSUE. IS THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY GET 628 00:20:54,987 --> 00:20:57,489 IS THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY GET KNOCKED OUT BADLY, PARTICULARLY 629 00:20:57,489 --> 00:21:01,428 KNOCKED OUT BADLY, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO MIGHT REQUIRE 630 00:21:01,428 --> 00:21:03,529 THOSE WHO MIGHT REQUIRE HOSPITALIZATION THAT IT IS 631 00:21:03,529 --> 00:21:04,663 HOSPITALIZATION THAT IT IS PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE MONTHS TO 632 00:21:04,663 --> 00:21:08,568 PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE MONTHS TO A YEAR OR MORE TO DETERMINE IF 633 00:21:08,568 --> 00:21:13,106 A YEAR OR MORE TO DETERMINE IF DELETERIOUS CONSEQUENCES OF THE 634 00:21:13,106 --> 00:21:13,372 DELETERIOUS CONSEQUENCES OF THE INFECTION. 635 00:21:13,372 --> 00:21:14,374 INFECTION. WE JUST DON’T KNOW THAT NOW, WE 636 00:21:14,374 --> 00:21:16,976 WE JUST DON’T KNOW THAT NOW, WE HAVEN’T HAD ENOUGH TIME. 637 00:21:16,976 --> 00:21:18,043 HAVEN’T HAD ENOUGH TIME. >> Mark: OKAY. 638 00:21:18,043 --> 00:21:19,646 >> Mark: OKAY. YOU MADE A COMMENT RECENTLY 639 00:21:19,646 --> 00:21:23,583 YOU MADE A COMMENT RECENTLY COMPARING THE SEVERITY OF COVID 640 00:21:23,583 --> 00:21:27,954 COMPARING THE SEVERITY OF COVID TO THE 1918 PANDEMIC THEY CAN 641 00:21:27,954 --> 00:21:28,721 TO THE 1918 PANDEMIC THEY CAN >> Dr. Fauci: I’M GLAD YOU 642 00:21:28,721 --> 00:21:29,956 >> Dr. Fauci: I’M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE I WANT 643 00:21:29,956 --> 00:21:32,726 BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT, I HAD USE THE 644 00:21:32,726 --> 00:21:33,960 TO CLARIFY THAT, I HAD USE THE WORD "COMPARABLE" AND I THINK I 645 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,328 WORD "COMPARABLE" AND I THINK I MAY HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT OF 646 00:21:36,328 --> 00:21:37,296 MAY HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD’VE 647 00:21:37,296 --> 00:21:38,431 CONTEXT BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD’VE THOUGHT, MY GOODNESS, WE ARE 648 00:21:38,431 --> 00:21:40,767 THOUGHT, MY GOODNESS, WE ARE HAVING THIS NOW, IS IT GOING TO 649 00:21:40,767 --> 00:21:43,569 HAVING THIS NOW, IS IT GOING TO BE THE 50-100000000 PEOPLE IN 650 00:21:43,569 --> 00:21:46,272 BE THE 50-100000000 PEOPLE IN 1918 THAT DIED? 651 00:21:46,272 --> 00:21:46,873 1918 THAT DIED? NO, THEY ARE NOT COMPARABLE IN 652 00:21:46,873 --> 00:21:48,641 NO, THEY ARE NOT COMPARABLE IN THAT WAY AT ALL IN SEVERITY, 653 00:21:48,641 --> 00:21:49,142 THAT WAY AT ALL IN SEVERITY, THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT. 654 00:21:49,142 --> 00:21:52,746 THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT. I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, 102 655 00:21:52,746 --> 00:21:55,682 I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, 102 YEARS THEN, HISTORICALLY LOOKING 656 00:21:55,682 --> 00:21:57,316 YEARS THEN, HISTORICALLY LOOKING NOW AND HISTORICALLY IMPORTANT 657 00:21:57,316 --> 00:21:57,950 NOW AND HISTORICALLY IMPORTANT OUTBREAK BECAUSE WE HAVEN’T HAD 658 00:21:57,950 --> 00:22:01,220 OUTBREAK BECAUSE WE HAVEN’T HAD ANYTHING LIKE THIS REALLY FOR 659 00:22:01,220 --> 00:22:01,921 ANYTHING LIKE THIS REALLY FOR 102 YEARS BUT I DON’T WANT 660 00:22:01,921 --> 00:22:06,725 102 YEARS BUT I DON’T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THIS SEVERITY 661 00:22:06,725 --> 00:22:07,494 ANYBODY TO THINK THIS SEVERITY COMPARABILITY BECAUSE OF WHAT 662 00:22:07,494 --> 00:22:10,462 COMPARABILITY BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS EXPERIENCED IN 1918 WHICH 663 00:22:10,462 --> 00:22:14,167 WAS EXPERIENCED IN 1918 WHICH JUST, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT 664 00:22:14,167 --> 00:22:17,704 JUST, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT INFECTED AFFECTED 100 MILLION 665 00:22:17,704 --> 00:22:18,337 INFECTED AFFECTED 100 MILLION DEATHS IN A POPULATION A THIRD 666 00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:21,007 DEATHS IN A POPULATION A THIRD OF THE SIZE NOW SO I WANTED TO 667 00:22:21,007 --> 00:22:21,340 OF THE SIZE NOW SO I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. 668 00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:24,410 CLARIFY THAT. THIS IS A SERIOUS SITUATION WE 669 00:22:24,410 --> 00:22:27,514 THIS IS A SERIOUS SITUATION WE ARE FACING NOW BUT IT’S NOT 670 00:22:27,514 --> 00:22:28,514 ARE FACING NOW BUT IT’S NOT 1918. 671 00:22:28,514 --> 00:22:30,450 1918. >> Mark: YEAH, THAT MAKES 672 00:22:30,450 --> 00:22:30,650 >> Mark: YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. 673 00:22:30,650 --> 00:22:31,250 SENSE. A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT 674 00:22:31,250 --> 00:22:34,621 A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE WRITTEN IN ARE 675 00:22:34,621 --> 00:22:36,689 PEOPLE HAVE WRITTEN IN ARE ABOUT, ASKING ABOUT REOPENING 676 00:22:36,689 --> 00:22:38,557 ABOUT, ASKING ABOUT REOPENING SCHOOLS, HOW SHOULD WE BE 677 00:22:38,557 --> 00:22:39,559 SCHOOLS, HOW SHOULD WE BE THINKING ABOUT REOPENING 678 00:22:39,559 --> 00:22:41,928 THINKING ABOUT REOPENING SCHOOLS, WHAT IS THE SCIENCE ON 679 00:22:41,928 --> 00:22:44,363 SCHOOLS, WHAT IS THE SCIENCE ON THIS ISSUE, WHAT IS YOUR VIEW OF 680 00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:45,364 THIS ISSUE, WHAT IS YOUR VIEW OF THE APPROPRIATE THRESHOLD IN 681 00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:46,165 THE APPROPRIATE THRESHOLD IN TERMS OF DECIDING WHEN TO REOPEN 682 00:22:46,165 --> 00:22:49,736 TERMS OF DECIDING WHEN TO REOPEN AND A LOT OF PARENTS JUST WANT 683 00:22:49,736 --> 00:22:50,537 AND A LOT OF PARENTS JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW THEY PERSONALLY 684 00:22:50,537 --> 00:22:56,209 TO KNOW HOW THEY PERSONALLY SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THIS. 685 00:22:56,209 --> 00:23:02,416 SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THIS. >>>> Dr. Fauci: THANKS, MARK. 686 00:23:02,416 --> 00:23:07,320 >>>> Dr. Fauci: THANKS, MARK. I THINK AS A DEFAULT I HAVE A 687 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:07,954 I THINK AS A DEFAULT I HAVE A GENERAL CONCEPT AND THEN I WILL 688 00:23:07,954 --> 00:23:08,988 GENERAL CONCEPT AND THEN I WILL FILL IN THE BLANKS. 689 00:23:08,988 --> 00:23:09,856 FILL IN THE BLANKS. THE GENERAL CONCEPT IS THAT TO 690 00:23:09,856 --> 00:23:16,296 THE GENERAL CONCEPT IS THAT TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, OUR DEFAULT 691 00:23:16,296 --> 00:23:17,897 THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, OUR DEFAULT IS TO TRY TO GET THE CHILDREN 692 00:23:17,897 --> 00:23:18,932 IS TO TRY TO GET THE CHILDREN BACK TO SCHOOL. 693 00:23:18,932 --> 00:23:22,168 BACK TO SCHOOL. THE REASON I SAY THAT IS THAT 694 00:23:22,168 --> 00:23:24,069 THE REASON I SAY THAT IS THAT THE UNINTENDED RIPPLE EFFECTS 695 00:23:24,069 --> 00:23:24,871 THE UNINTENDED RIPPLE EFFECTS DOWNSTREAM CONSEQUENCES OF 696 00:23:24,871 --> 00:23:27,473 DOWNSTREAM CONSEQUENCES OF KEEPING THE CHILDREN OUT OF 697 00:23:27,473 --> 00:23:29,342 KEEPING THE CHILDREN OUT OF SCHOOL CAN BE PROFOUND. 698 00:23:29,342 --> 00:23:30,076 SCHOOL CAN BE PROFOUND. AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS 699 00:23:30,076 --> 00:23:33,679 AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS HAS SPOKEN ABOUT THAT, THE 700 00:23:33,679 --> 00:23:34,313 HAS SPOKEN ABOUT THAT, THE DELETERIOUS EFFECTS ON CHILDREN, 701 00:23:34,313 --> 00:23:37,282 DELETERIOUS EFFECTS ON CHILDREN, THE IMPACT ON PARENTS WHO HAVE 702 00:23:37,282 --> 00:23:38,518 THE IMPACT ON PARENTS WHO HAVE TO MODIFY THEIR WORK SCHEDULE 703 00:23:38,518 --> 00:23:41,354 TO MODIFY THEIR WORK SCHEDULE WITH THEIR CHILDREN STAY HOME, 704 00:23:41,354 --> 00:23:42,855 WITH THEIR CHILDREN STAY HOME, THERE ARE A LOT OF UNINTENDED 705 00:23:42,855 --> 00:23:43,322 THERE ARE A LOT OF UNINTENDED NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES. 706 00:23:43,322 --> 00:23:46,259 NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES. HAVING SAID THAT, THE THOUGHT 707 00:23:46,259 --> 00:23:47,159 HAVING SAID THAT, THE THOUGHT THAT THE DEFAULT SHOULD BE TO 708 00:23:47,159 --> 00:23:50,963 THAT THE DEFAULT SHOULD BE TO TRY TO GET KIDS TO SCHOOL, YOU 709 00:23:50,963 --> 00:23:53,499 TRY TO GET KIDS TO SCHOOL, YOU GOT TO LOOK AT WHERE YOU ARE, 710 00:23:53,499 --> 00:23:55,368 GOT TO LOOK AT WHERE YOU ARE, LOCATIONWISE BECAUSE AS I’VE 711 00:23:55,368 --> 00:23:56,069 LOCATIONWISE BECAUSE AS I’VE SAID OFTEN, THE UNITED STATES IS 712 00:23:56,069 --> 00:24:00,740 SAID OFTEN, THE UNITED STATES IS A LARGE COUNTRY, GEOGRAPHICALLY 713 00:24:00,740 --> 00:24:01,908 A LARGE COUNTRY, GEOGRAPHICALLY AND DEMOGRAPHICALLY QUITE 714 00:24:01,908 --> 00:24:03,643 AND DEMOGRAPHICALLY QUITE DIFFERENT, YOU CAN BE IN A PART 715 00:24:03,643 --> 00:24:05,078 DIFFERENT, YOU CAN BE IN A PART OF THE COUNTRY, A COUNTY, CITY, 716 00:24:05,078 --> 00:24:08,480 OF THE COUNTRY, A COUNTY, CITY, STATE IN WHICH THE LEVEL OF 717 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,650 STATE IN WHICH THE LEVEL OF VIRUS INFECTION, THE DYNAMICS IS 718 00:24:10,650 --> 00:24:13,954 VIRUS INFECTION, THE DYNAMICS IS SO LOW, YOU CAN SEND KIDS BACK 719 00:24:13,954 --> 00:24:14,955 SO LOW, YOU CAN SEND KIDS BACK TO SCHOOL WITHOUT ANY 720 00:24:14,955 --> 00:24:15,521 TO SCHOOL WITHOUT ANY MODIFICTION OR ANY WORRY BUT 721 00:24:15,521 --> 00:24:18,091 MODIFICTION OR ANY WORRY BUT THERE ARE ALSO SOME AREAS WHERE 722 00:24:18,091 --> 00:24:18,925 THERE ARE ALSO SOME AREAS WHERE YOU LOOK AT THE DYNAMICS OF THE 723 00:24:18,925 --> 00:24:21,361 YOU LOOK AT THE DYNAMICS OF THE INFECTION ARE SO INTENSE THAT 724 00:24:21,361 --> 00:24:22,227 INFECTION ARE SO INTENSE THAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, 725 00:24:22,227 --> 00:24:24,664 YOU HAVE TO SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, LET ME THINK ABOUT IT. 726 00:24:24,664 --> 00:24:25,865 LET ME THINK ABOUT IT. DO I HAVE TO CLOSE THE SCHOOL 727 00:24:25,865 --> 00:24:27,300 DO I HAVE TO CLOSE THE SCHOOL FOR AN HOUR CAN I GO BACK BUT IN 728 00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:29,936 FOR AN HOUR CAN I GO BACK BUT IN ORDER TO BE SAFE, DO I NEED TO 729 00:24:29,936 --> 00:24:33,739 ORDER TO BE SAFE, DO I NEED TO DO IT IN A MODIFIED WAY? 730 00:24:33,739 --> 00:24:35,208 DO IT IN A MODIFIED WAY? ALTERNATE DAYS, MORNING, 731 00:24:35,208 --> 00:24:37,910 ALTERNATE DAYS, MORNING, AFTERNOON, WHATEVER BECAUSE 732 00:24:37,910 --> 00:24:39,612 AFTERNOON, WHATEVER BECAUSE PARAMOUNT IS THE SAFETY AND THE 733 00:24:39,612 --> 00:24:43,249 PARAMOUNT IS THE SAFETY AND THE HEALTH OF THE CHILDREN AS WELL 734 00:24:43,249 --> 00:24:45,685 HEALTH OF THE CHILDREN AS WELL AS THE SAFETY AND HEALTH OF THE 735 00:24:45,685 --> 00:24:46,485 AS THE SAFETY AND HEALTH OF THE TEACHERS. 736 00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:47,820 TEACHERS. SO YOU REALLY GOT TO MAKE SURE 737 00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:50,455 SO YOU REALLY GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT’S A DRIVING FORCE IN YOUR 738 00:24:50,455 --> 00:24:51,223 THAT’S A DRIVING FORCE IN YOUR DECISION. 739 00:24:51,223 --> 00:24:55,061 DECISION. A WIDE DEGREE OF VARIABILITY, 740 00:24:55,061 --> 00:24:56,162 A WIDE DEGREE OF VARIABILITY, DEFAULT, ALWAYS TRY TO GET THE 741 00:24:56,162 --> 00:24:56,929 DEFAULT, ALWAYS TRY TO GET THE SCHOOLS OPEN. 742 00:24:56,929 --> 00:24:59,666 SCHOOLS OPEN. IF YOU CAN’T DO IT IN A NATURAL 743 00:24:59,666 --> 00:25:03,735 IF YOU CAN’T DO IT IN A NATURAL WAY, DO MODIFICATION, THE SCHOOL 744 00:25:03,735 --> 00:25:04,570 WAY, DO MODIFICATION, THE SCHOOL PRINCIPALS, THE SUPERINTENDENTS 745 00:25:04,570 --> 00:25:05,672 PRINCIPALS, THE SUPERINTENDENTS HAVE VERY CREATIVE WAYS OF DOING 746 00:25:05,672 --> 00:25:09,075 HAVE VERY CREATIVE WAYS OF DOING THAT, MODIFYING THE CLASS 747 00:25:09,075 --> 00:25:10,877 THAT, MODIFYING THE CLASS STRUCTURE, OUTDOORS MAY BE A 748 00:25:10,877 --> 00:25:12,345 STRUCTURE, OUTDOORS MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, PROTECTING THE 749 00:25:12,345 --> 00:25:13,011 LITTLE BIT MORE, PROTECTING THE VULNERABLE, IT CAN BE DONE. 750 00:25:13,011 --> 00:25:17,150 VULNERABLE, IT CAN BE DONE. IT CAN BE DONE. 751 00:25:17,150 --> 00:25:17,783 IT CAN BE DONE. >> Mark: OKAY. 752 00:25:17,783 --> 00:25:18,750 >> Mark: OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD 753 00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:22,422 IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD SAY TO PARENTS WHO ARE WORRIED 754 00:25:22,422 --> 00:25:23,589 SAY TO PARENTS WHO ARE WORRIED ABOUT EITHER HAVING SCHOOLS 755 00:25:23,589 --> 00:25:25,591 ABOUT EITHER HAVING SCHOOLS REOPEN OR THE SAFETY OF SENDING 756 00:25:25,591 --> 00:25:29,629 REOPEN OR THE SAFETY OF SENDING THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOLS? 757 00:25:29,629 --> 00:25:30,930 THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOLS? >> Dr. Fauci: I KNOW PARENTS, 758 00:25:30,930 --> 00:25:32,397 >> Dr. Fauci: I KNOW PARENTS, AT LEAST I AS A PARENT OR MY 759 00:25:32,397 --> 00:25:34,568 AT LEAST I AS A PARENT OR MY CHILDREN WERE AT THAT AGE, I’D 760 00:25:34,568 --> 00:25:37,070 CHILDREN WERE AT THAT AGE, I’D CERTAINLY BE CONCERNED, TO 761 00:25:37,070 --> 00:25:38,938 CERTAINLY BE CONCERNED, TO LISTEN TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS, 762 00:25:38,938 --> 00:25:40,806 LISTEN TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE CDC HAS GUIDELINES, HEALTH 763 00:25:40,806 --> 00:25:45,277 THE CDC HAS GUIDELINES, HEALTH OFFICIALS LOCALLY WILL MAKE A 764 00:25:45,277 --> 00:25:46,778 OFFICIALS LOCALLY WILL MAKE A DECISION HOPEFULLY AND I CAN’T 765 00:25:46,778 --> 00:25:48,147 DECISION HOPEFULLY AND I CAN’T IMAGINE THEY WON’T BASED ON A 766 00:25:48,147 --> 00:25:49,314 IMAGINE THEY WON’T BASED ON A CONCERN FOR THE SAFETY AT THE 767 00:25:49,314 --> 00:25:50,183 CONCERN FOR THE SAFETY AT THE SAME TIME AS THE NEED TO GET THE 768 00:25:50,183 --> 00:25:53,051 SAME TIME AS THE NEED TO GET THE CHILDREN BACK TO SCHOOL. 769 00:25:53,051 --> 00:25:55,687 CHILDREN BACK TO SCHOOL. CDC GUIDELINES CAN BE USED VERY 770 00:25:55,687 --> 00:25:57,857 CDC GUIDELINES CAN BE USED VERY WELL. 771 00:25:57,857 --> 00:25:58,491 WELL. >> Mark: YEAH. 772 00:25:58,491 --> 00:26:00,792 >> Mark: YEAH. >> Dr. Fauci: I WANT TO TALK 773 00:26:00,792 --> 00:26:01,360 >> Dr. Fauci: I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE RACIAL DISPARITIES 774 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:04,529 ABOUT THE RACIAL DISPARITIES HERE WHICH I THINK ARE REALLY 775 00:26:04,529 --> 00:26:04,796 HERE WHICH I THINK ARE REALLY TROUBLING. 776 00:26:04,796 --> 00:26:10,636 TROUBLING. THE CDC HAS REPORTED THAT BLACK, 777 00:26:10,636 --> 00:26:12,905 THE CDC HAS REPORTED THAT BLACK, LATINX, AND NATIVE AMERICANS ARE 778 00:26:12,905 --> 00:26:15,308 LATINX, AND NATIVE AMERICANS ARE FOUR TIMES AS LIKELY TO BE 779 00:26:15,308 --> 00:26:17,643 FOUR TIMES AS LIKELY TO BE INFECTED WITH COVID AND TWICE AS 780 00:26:17,643 --> 00:26:18,277 INFECTED WITH COVID AND TWICE AS LIKELY TO DIE AS WHITE 781 00:26:18,277 --> 00:26:18,544 LIKELY TO DIE AS WHITE AMERICANS. 782 00:26:18,544 --> 00:26:19,712 AMERICANS. WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT WHAT 783 00:26:19,712 --> 00:26:21,547 WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT WHAT WE ARE SEEING HERE AND WHAT IS 784 00:26:21,547 --> 00:26:23,348 WE ARE SEEING HERE AND WHAT IS BEING DONE BY THE GOVERNMENT TO 785 00:26:23,348 --> 00:26:27,053 BEING DONE BY THE GOVERNMENT TO ADDRESS THIS? 786 00:26:27,053 --> 00:26:28,688 ADDRESS THIS? >> Dr. Fauci: THAT’S A VERY 787 00:26:28,688 --> 00:26:30,123 >> Dr. Fauci: THAT’S A VERY GOOD QUESTION AND A VERY 788 00:26:30,123 --> 00:26:30,756 GOOD QUESTION AND A VERY DISTURBING PHENOMENON THAT IS A 789 00:26:30,756 --> 00:26:32,624 DISTURBING PHENOMENON THAT IS A REALITY. 790 00:26:32,624 --> 00:26:34,494 REALITY. AND THERE IS AN EXPLANATION FOR 791 00:26:34,494 --> 00:26:35,828 AND THERE IS AN EXPLANATION FOR IT AND THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN 792 00:26:35,828 --> 00:26:39,732 IT AND THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO ABOUT IT IMMEDIATELY, THINGS 793 00:26:39,732 --> 00:26:42,100 DO ABOUT IT IMMEDIATELY, THINGS ARE GOING TO TAKE DECADES FOR US 794 00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:42,501 ARE GOING TO TAKE DECADES FOR US TO CORRECT. 795 00:26:42,501 --> 00:26:44,437 TO CORRECT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT IF 796 00:26:44,437 --> 00:26:46,005 IF YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT IF YOU LOOK AT MINORITIES AS YOU 797 00:26:46,005 --> 00:26:53,680 YOU LOOK AT MINORITIES AS YOU MENTIONED, AFRICAN-AMERICANS, 798 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,447 MENTIONED, AFRICAN-AMERICANS, LATINX, NATIVE AMERICAN AND 799 00:26:54,447 --> 00:26:55,514 LATINX, NATIVE AMERICAN AND ALASKAN AMERICANS, IF YOU LOOK 800 00:26:55,514 --> 00:26:56,381 ALASKAN AMERICANS, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT GROUP, YOU DON’T LIKE TO 801 00:26:56,381 --> 00:26:59,986 AT THAT GROUP, YOU DON’T LIKE TO GENERALIZE BUT IT IS A FACT THAT 802 00:26:59,986 --> 00:27:01,554 GENERALIZE BUT IT IS A FACT THAT AS A DEMOGRAPHIC GROUP, THE 803 00:27:01,554 --> 00:27:03,790 AS A DEMOGRAPHIC GROUP, THE KINDS OF JOBS THAT THEY 804 00:27:03,790 --> 00:27:05,691 KINDS OF JOBS THAT THEY GENERALLY HAVE DO NOT ALLOW THEM 805 00:27:05,691 --> 00:27:09,094 GENERALLY HAVE DO NOT ALLOW THEM AS MUCH TO DO THE KIND OF 806 00:27:09,094 --> 00:27:09,695 AS MUCH TO DO THE KIND OF TELECOMMUNICATION THAT WE ARE 807 00:27:09,695 --> 00:27:13,933 TELECOMMUNICATION THAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW THAT PUT THEM IN 808 00:27:13,933 --> 00:27:14,967 DOING RIGHT NOW THAT PUT THEM IN SO CALLED ESSENTIAL JOBS WHERE 809 00:27:14,967 --> 00:27:17,270 SO CALLED ESSENTIAL JOBS WHERE THEY ARE OUTSIDE IN A SITUATION, 810 00:27:17,270 --> 00:27:19,939 THEY ARE OUTSIDE IN A SITUATION, EXPOSED ENOUGH TO HAVE A GREATER 811 00:27:19,939 --> 00:27:21,841 EXPOSED ENOUGH TO HAVE A GREATER INCIDENCE OF INFECTION THAN 812 00:27:21,841 --> 00:27:23,342 INCIDENCE OF INFECTION THAN SOMEONE WHO CAN CALL A TIMEOUT 813 00:27:23,342 --> 00:27:24,409 SOMEONE WHO CAN CALL A TIMEOUT AND DO WORK FROM THE QUIET AND 814 00:27:24,409 --> 00:27:26,712 AND DO WORK FROM THE QUIET AND SOLITUDE OF THEIR OWN HOME. 815 00:27:26,712 --> 00:27:29,115 SOLITUDE OF THEIR OWN HOME. SO THEY HAVE A GREATER CHANCE OF 816 00:27:29,115 --> 00:27:29,515 SO THEY HAVE A GREATER CHANCE OF GETTING INFECTED. 817 00:27:29,515 --> 00:27:33,251 GETTING INFECTED. ONCE THEY DO GET INFECTED, AS A 818 00:27:33,251 --> 00:27:34,688 ONCE THEY DO GET INFECTED, AS A GROUP IF YOU LOOK AT THE 819 00:27:34,688 --> 00:27:36,088 GROUP IF YOU LOOK AT THE UNDERLYING CONDITIONS THAT LEAD 820 00:27:36,088 --> 00:27:40,593 UNDERLYING CONDITIONS THAT LEAD TO A HIGHER LIKELIHOOD OF A BAD 821 00:27:40,593 --> 00:27:42,962 TO A HIGHER LIKELIHOOD OF A BAD OUTCOME, THOSE DEMOGRAPHIC 822 00:27:42,962 --> 00:27:44,196 OUTCOME, THOSE DEMOGRAPHIC MINORITY GROUPS HAVE A MUCH 823 00:27:44,196 --> 00:27:46,766 MINORITY GROUPS HAVE A MUCH HIGHER INCIDENCE OF THAT AND I’M 824 00:27:46,766 --> 00:27:49,901 HIGHER INCIDENCE OF THAT AND I’M TALKING ABOUT HYPERTENSION, 825 00:27:49,901 --> 00:27:54,073 TALKING ABOUT HYPERTENSION, OBESITY, CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE, 826 00:27:54,073 --> 00:27:55,907 OBESITY, CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE, OTHER TYPES OF CHRONIC LUNG 827 00:27:55,907 --> 00:27:58,111 OTHER TYPES OF CHRONIC LUNG DISEASE, DIABETES, THOSE ARE THE 828 00:27:58,111 --> 00:28:00,812 DISEASE, DIABETES, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT PUT YOU AT A HIGHER 829 00:28:00,812 --> 00:28:01,680 THINGS THAT PUT YOU AT A HIGHER RISK SO THE IMMEDIATE THINGS 830 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,350 RISK SO THE IMMEDIATE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO NOW IS, HOW DO 831 00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:06,418 THAT WE CAN DO NOW IS, HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THAT? 832 00:28:06,418 --> 00:28:09,488 YOU ADDRESS THAT? WHAT YOU DO IS PUT RESOURCES 833 00:28:09,488 --> 00:28:10,089 WHAT YOU DO IS PUT RESOURCES WHERE YOU HAVE A DEMOGRAPHIC 834 00:28:10,089 --> 00:28:12,658 WHERE YOU HAVE A DEMOGRAPHIC CONCENTRATION OF INDIVIDUALS SO 835 00:28:12,658 --> 00:28:15,261 CONCENTRATION OF INDIVIDUALS SO THEY CAN GET TESTED EASILY, 836 00:28:15,261 --> 00:28:18,431 THEY CAN GET TESTED EASILY, CONTACT-TRACED EASILY, ACCESS TO 837 00:28:18,431 --> 00:28:20,399 CONTACT-TRACED EASILY, ACCESS TO CARE, GET UNDER THE CARE OF A 838 00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:21,733 CARE, GET UNDER THE CARE OF A HEALTH CARE PROVIDER QUICKLY TO 839 00:28:21,733 --> 00:28:23,569 HEALTH CARE PROVIDER QUICKLY TO TRY TO MITIGATE THE ADVANCEMENT 840 00:28:23,569 --> 00:28:23,903 TRY TO MITIGATE THE ADVANCEMENT OF DISEASE. 841 00:28:23,903 --> 00:28:26,639 OF DISEASE. YOU CAN DO THAT RIGHT AWAY, 842 00:28:26,639 --> 00:28:28,608 YOU CAN DO THAT RIGHT AWAY, CONCENTRATE RESOURCES IN THOSE 843 00:28:28,608 --> 00:28:29,207 CONCENTRATE RESOURCES IN THOSE PLACES. 844 00:28:29,207 --> 00:28:30,009 PLACES. MAKING SURE THEY GET THINGS THAT 845 00:28:30,009 --> 00:28:34,080 MAKING SURE THEY GET THINGS THAT THEY NEED RIGHT AWAY. 846 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,581 THEY NEED RIGHT AWAY. THE BROADER PICTURE OF THE 847 00:28:35,581 --> 00:28:36,448 THE BROADER PICTURE OF THE SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH 848 00:28:36,448 --> 00:28:39,785 SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH THAT LEAD TO MINORITY GROUPS 849 00:28:39,785 --> 00:28:42,822 THAT LEAD TO MINORITY GROUPS HAVING A HIGHER INCIDENCE OF 850 00:28:42,822 --> 00:28:43,989 HAVING A HIGHER INCIDENCE OF DIABETES, OBESITY, OF LUNG 851 00:28:43,989 --> 00:28:47,125 DIABETES, OBESITY, OF LUNG DISEASE, OF HEART DISEASE, THOSE 852 00:28:47,125 --> 00:28:47,759 DISEASE, OF HEART DISEASE, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE 853 00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:50,762 ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE AS A SOCIETY NEED TO ADDRESS AND 854 00:28:50,762 --> 00:28:54,099 AS A SOCIETY NEED TO ADDRESS AND COMMIT TO DOING OVER A PERIOD OF 855 00:28:54,099 --> 00:28:54,766 COMMIT TO DOING OVER A PERIOD OF DECADES BECAUSE THAT’S NOT GOING 856 00:28:54,766 --> 00:28:57,937 DECADES BECAUSE THAT’S NOT GOING TO CHANGE OVERNIGHT BUT LET’S AT 857 00:28:57,937 --> 00:28:59,738 TO CHANGE OVERNIGHT BUT LET’S AT LEAST TO DO THE THINGS THAT WE 858 00:28:59,738 --> 00:29:00,705 LEAST TO DO THE THINGS THAT WE CAN FIX NOW AND WE CAN FIX 859 00:29:00,705 --> 00:29:05,178 CAN FIX NOW AND WE CAN FIX ACCESS TO CARE, WE CAN FIX EASE 860 00:29:05,178 --> 00:29:09,615 ACCESS TO CARE, WE CAN FIX EASE OF TESTING, WE CAN DO THAT NOW. 861 00:29:09,615 --> 00:29:11,150 OF TESTING, WE CAN DO THAT NOW. >> Mark: YEAH, OKAY, THAT’S 862 00:29:11,150 --> 00:29:13,251 >> Mark: YEAH, OKAY, THAT’S IMPORTANT AND I THINK IT MAKES 863 00:29:13,251 --> 00:29:13,886 IMPORTANT AND I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. 864 00:29:13,886 --> 00:29:15,721 SENSE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE TIME 865 00:29:15,721 --> 00:29:16,856 I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE TIME TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE SCIENCE 866 00:29:16,856 --> 00:29:21,226 TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE SCIENCE AND POTENTIAL TREATMENTS. 867 00:29:21,226 --> 00:29:22,862 AND POTENTIAL TREATMENTS. EARLIER ON, I KNOW A LOT OF 868 00:29:22,862 --> 00:29:24,296 EARLIER ON, I KNOW A LOT OF SCIENTISTS WERE HOPEFUL THAT 869 00:29:24,296 --> 00:29:27,032 SCIENTISTS WERE HOPEFUL THAT THERE MIGHT BE EXISTING DRUGS, 870 00:29:27,032 --> 00:29:28,400 THERE MIGHT BE EXISTING DRUGS, INCLUDING THINGS LIKE 871 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,302 INCLUDING THINGS LIKE HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE THAT MIGHT’VE 872 00:29:30,302 --> 00:29:31,938 HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE THAT MIGHT’VE BEEN EFFECTIVE AGAINST COVID BUT 873 00:29:31,938 --> 00:29:33,038 BEEN EFFECTIVE AGAINST COVID BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT SEEMS LIKE 874 00:29:33,038 --> 00:29:37,076 UNFORTUNATELY IT SEEMS LIKE NOTHING HAS REALLY EMERGED AS A 875 00:29:37,076 --> 00:29:38,211 NOTHING HAS REALLY EMERGED AS A CLEAR TREATMENT OF EXISTING 876 00:29:38,211 --> 00:29:39,144 CLEAR TREATMENT OF EXISTING DRUGS THAT WERE ALREADY ON THE 877 00:29:39,144 --> 00:29:42,514 DRUGS THAT WERE ALREADY ON THE MARKET AND HAD ALREADY BEEN 878 00:29:42,514 --> 00:29:43,548 MARKET AND HAD ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED AS SAFE. 879 00:29:43,548 --> 00:29:50,590 REVIEWED AS SAFE. AND EVEN DRUGS LIKE RENT AS OF, 880 00:29:50,590 --> 00:29:51,423 AND EVEN DRUGS LIKE RENT AS OF, ONE OF THE MORE EFFECTIVE NEWER 881 00:29:51,423 --> 00:29:55,061 ONE OF THE MORE EFFECTIVE NEWER MEDICATIONS DOESN’T SEEM TO HAVE 882 00:29:55,061 --> 00:29:56,462 MEDICATIONS DOESN’T SEEM TO HAVE AS MUCH OF A POSITIVE IMPACT AS 883 00:29:56,462 --> 00:29:57,096 AS MUCH OF A POSITIVE IMPACT AS WE MIGHT HAVE HOPED. 884 00:29:57,096 --> 00:29:58,530 WE MIGHT HAVE HOPED. SO WHAT’S YOUR TAKE ON THE DRUGS 885 00:29:58,530 --> 00:30:00,933 SO WHAT’S YOUR TAKE ON THE DRUGS THAT WE FOUND SO FAR THAT WE 886 00:30:00,933 --> 00:30:01,734 THAT WE FOUND SO FAR THAT WE TESTED AND ARE THERE ANY 887 00:30:01,734 --> 00:30:04,103 TESTED AND ARE THERE ANY TREATMENTS YOU ARE OPTIMISTIC 888 00:30:04,103 --> 00:30:06,771 TREATMENTS YOU ARE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT OVER THE COMING MONTHS? 889 00:30:06,771 --> 00:30:08,607 ABOUT OVER THE COMING MONTHS? >> Dr. Fauci: GREAT QUESTION, 890 00:30:08,607 --> 00:30:09,275 >> Dr. Fauci: GREAT QUESTION, THANKS, MARK. 891 00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:10,575 THANKS, MARK. IF YOU LOOK AT ADVANCED DISEASE 892 00:30:10,575 --> 00:30:14,146 IF YOU LOOK AT ADVANCED DISEASE AND EARLY DISEASE, WE HAVE HAD 893 00:30:14,146 --> 00:30:18,251 AND EARLY DISEASE, WE HAVE HAD TWO ADVANCES AND THIS WAS IN 894 00:30:18,251 --> 00:30:22,021 TWO ADVANCES AND THIS WAS IN RANDOMIZED TRIAL, NOT THE TYPE 895 00:30:22,021 --> 00:30:22,989 RANDOMIZED TRIAL, NOT THE TYPE OF ANECDOTAL THINGS THAT GIVE 896 00:30:22,989 --> 00:30:25,124 OF ANECDOTAL THINGS THAT GIVE YOU INFORMATION THAT GENERALLY 897 00:30:25,124 --> 00:30:27,660 YOU INFORMATION THAT GENERALLY CONFUSES PEOPLE. 898 00:30:27,660 --> 00:30:29,061 CONFUSES PEOPLE. IF YOU LOOK AT REMDESIVIR IN 899 00:30:29,061 --> 00:30:29,728 IF YOU LOOK AT REMDESIVIR IN INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HOSPITALIZED 900 00:30:29,728 --> 00:30:32,631 INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HOSPITALIZED WITH LUNG INVOLVEMENT AND YOU 901 00:30:32,631 --> 00:30:36,735 WITH LUNG INVOLVEMENT AND YOU LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF 902 00:30:36,735 --> 00:30:37,503 LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF REMDESIVIR, THERE WAS A HIGHLY 903 00:30:37,503 --> 00:30:41,474 REMDESIVIR, THERE WAS A HIGHLY SIGNIFICANT BUT MODEST EFFECT IN 904 00:30:41,474 --> 00:30:42,107 SIGNIFICANT BUT MODEST EFFECT IN DIMINISHING THE TIME TO RECOVERY 905 00:30:42,107 --> 00:30:46,679 DIMINISHING THE TIME TO RECOVERY SO THAT’S ONE WELL-PROVEN GOOD 906 00:30:46,679 --> 00:30:47,046 SO THAT’S ONE WELL-PROVEN GOOD DRUG. 907 00:30:47,046 --> 00:30:54,920 DRUG. DECK SOMEDEXAMETHASONE, CLEARLY 908 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:55,421 DECK SOMEDEXAMETHASONE, CLEARLY HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS ON 909 00:30:55,421 --> 00:30:57,122 HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS ON VENTILATORS OR REQUIRING OXYGEN 910 00:30:57,122 --> 00:30:58,257 VENTILATORS OR REQUIRING OXYGEN BUT NOT PEOPLE WITH EARLY 911 00:30:58,257 --> 00:31:01,393 BUT NOT PEOPLE WITH EARLY DISEASE THAT IF YOU GAVE IT 912 00:31:01,393 --> 00:31:03,562 DISEASE THAT IF YOU GAVE IT 6 MILLIGRAMS A DAY FOR UP TO TEN 913 00:31:03,562 --> 00:31:05,531 6 MILLIGRAMS A DAY FOR UP TO TEN DAYS, YOU SIGNIFICANTLY 914 00:31:05,531 --> 00:31:09,901 DAYS, YOU SIGNIFICANTLY DIMINISHED THE DEATH RATE IN 915 00:31:09,901 --> 00:31:10,569 DIMINISHED THE DEATH RATE IN VENTILATED PATIENTS, PATIENTS 916 00:31:10,569 --> 00:31:12,204 VENTILATED PATIENTS, PATIENTS REQUIRING OXYGEN BUT NOT IN 917 00:31:12,204 --> 00:31:12,705 REQUIRING OXYGEN BUT NOT IN EARLY PATIENTS WHICH IS 918 00:31:12,705 --> 00:31:16,008 EARLY PATIENTS WHICH IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT GOES 919 00:31:16,008 --> 00:31:18,109 INTERESTING BECAUSE IT GOES ALONG WITH WHAT WE KNOW OF THE 920 00:31:18,109 --> 00:31:19,078 ALONG WITH WHAT WE KNOW OF THE PATHOGENESIS OF THE DISEASE. 921 00:31:19,078 --> 00:31:20,846 PATHOGENESIS OF THE DISEASE. WHEN YOU HAVE EARLY DISEASE YOU 922 00:31:20,846 --> 00:31:22,782 WHEN YOU HAVE EARLY DISEASE YOU WANT TO BLOCK THE VIRUS AND KEEP 923 00:31:22,782 --> 00:31:25,650 WANT TO BLOCK THE VIRUS AND KEEP THE IMMUNE SYSTEM REVVED UP AND 924 00:31:25,650 --> 00:31:26,986 THE IMMUNE SYSTEM REVVED UP AND WORKING. 925 00:31:26,986 --> 00:31:27,953 WORKING. WHEN YOU HAVE LATE DISEASE IT’S 926 00:31:27,953 --> 00:31:32,191 WHEN YOU HAVE LATE DISEASE IT’S LESS THE VIRUS DOING DAMAGE AND 927 00:31:32,191 --> 00:31:34,460 LESS THE VIRUS DOING DAMAGE AND THE INFLAMMATORY RESPONSE IS THE 928 00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:38,464 THE INFLAMMATORY RESPONSE IS THE REASON WHY DEXAMETHASONE WORKS. 929 00:31:38,464 --> 00:31:40,398 REASON WHY DEXAMETHASONE WORKS. WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS YOUR 930 00:31:40,398 --> 00:31:41,700 WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHAT DO WE HAVE 931 00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:42,802 QUESTION ABOUT WHAT DO WE HAVE IN THE MIX RIGHT NOW? 932 00:31:42,802 --> 00:31:46,305 IN THE MIX RIGHT NOW? WHAT WE REALLY NEED ARE DRUGS 933 00:31:46,305 --> 00:31:47,606 WHAT WE REALLY NEED ARE DRUGS THAT WHEN GIVEN EARLY CAN 934 00:31:47,606 --> 00:31:51,010 THAT WHEN GIVEN EARLY CAN PREVENT ASYMPTOMATIC PERSON FROM 935 00:31:51,010 --> 00:31:51,577 PREVENT ASYMPTOMATIC PERSON FROM REQUIRING HOSPITALIZATION OR 936 00:31:51,577 --> 00:31:54,580 REQUIRING HOSPITALIZATION OR VERY DRAMATICALLY DIMINISH THE 937 00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:55,415 VERY DRAMATICALLY DIMINISH THE TIME THEY ARE SYMPTOMATIC. 938 00:31:55,415 --> 00:31:59,618 TIME THEY ARE SYMPTOMATIC. AND SOME OF THE PROMISING ONES 939 00:31:59,618 --> 00:32:01,721 AND SOME OF THE PROMISING ONES ARE OTHER DIRECT ANTIVIRAL DRUGS 940 00:32:01,721 --> 00:32:02,488 ARE OTHER DIRECT ANTIVIRAL DRUGS WHICH WE ARE SCREENING AND 941 00:32:02,488 --> 00:32:04,857 WHICH WE ARE SCREENING AND TARGETING. 942 00:32:04,857 --> 00:32:07,425 TARGETING. ALSO CONVALESCENT PLASMA WHICH 943 00:32:07,425 --> 00:32:09,595 ALSO CONVALESCENT PLASMA WHICH WE ARE DOING A TRIAL TO SEE IF 944 00:32:09,595 --> 00:32:13,431 WE ARE DOING A TRIAL TO SEE IF IT WORKS, AND IMPORTANTLY, 945 00:32:13,431 --> 00:32:16,068 IT WORKS, AND IMPORTANTLY, MONOCLONAL ANTIBODIES. 946 00:32:16,068 --> 00:32:17,670 MONOCLONAL ANTIBODIES. VERY PRECISE BULLETS THAT YOU 947 00:32:17,670 --> 00:32:21,206 VERY PRECISE BULLETS THAT YOU HAVE BY DEVELOPING FROM A PERSON 948 00:32:21,206 --> 00:32:22,173 HAVE BY DEVELOPING FROM A PERSON WHO’S BEEN INFECTED OR 949 00:32:22,173 --> 00:32:26,245 WHO’S BEEN INFECTED OR VACCINATED, MAKING ANTIBODIES 950 00:32:26,245 --> 00:32:28,446 VACCINATED, MAKING ANTIBODIES AND GIVE IT TO PEOPLE EARLY ON. 951 00:32:28,446 --> 00:32:30,683 AND GIVE IT TO PEOPLE EARLY ON. YOU CAN DO IT AS OUTPATIENT, DO 952 00:32:30,683 --> 00:32:31,083 YOU CAN DO IT AS OUTPATIENT, DO IT AS INPATIENT. 953 00:32:31,083 --> 00:32:33,985 IT AS INPATIENT. ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE BEING 954 00:32:33,985 --> 00:32:36,422 ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE BEING GEARED UP NOW AND ARE EITHER IN 955 00:32:36,422 --> 00:32:37,523 GEARED UP NOW AND ARE EITHER IN CLINICAL TRIAL OR WILL SOON BE 956 00:32:37,523 --> 00:32:41,226 CLINICAL TRIAL OR WILL SOON BE GOING INTO CLINICAL TRIAL. 957 00:32:41,226 --> 00:32:43,629 GOING INTO CLINICAL TRIAL. >> Mark: SO WHEN YOU TALK 958 00:32:43,629 --> 00:32:45,064 >> Mark: SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE MONOCLONAL 959 00:32:45,064 --> 00:32:46,265 ABOUT THINGS LIKE MONOCLONAL ANTIBODIES, HOW WILL THAT BE 960 00:32:46,265 --> 00:32:48,400 ANTIBODIES, HOW WILL THAT BE ADMINISTERED AND WHO COULD GET 961 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:48,600 ADMINISTERED AND WHO COULD GET THAT? 962 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,968 THAT? WHO’S THE AUDIENCE THAT THAT 963 00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:51,970 WHO’S THE AUDIENCE THAT THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR? 964 00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:54,440 MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR? >> Dr. Fauci: FIRST OF ALL, IT 965 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:54,874 >> Dr. Fauci: FIRST OF ALL, IT CAN BE ADMINISTERED 966 00:32:54,874 --> 00:32:56,374 CAN BE ADMINISTERED INTRAVENOUSLY ONCE YOU GET THE 967 00:32:56,374 --> 00:32:59,478 INTRAVENOUSLY ONCE YOU GET THE RIGHT TITRATION, YOU CAN DO THAT 968 00:32:59,478 --> 00:33:01,480 RIGHT TITRATION, YOU CAN DO THAT SUBCUTANEOUSLY OR 969 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:01,846 SUBCUTANEOUSLY OR INTRAMUSCULARLY. 970 00:33:01,846 --> 00:33:06,485 INTRAMUSCULARLY. YOU CAN DO IT FOR TWO THINGS. 971 00:33:06,485 --> 00:33:07,053 YOU CAN DO IT FOR TWO THINGS. EXCUSE ME? 972 00:33:07,053 --> 00:33:07,520 EXCUSE ME? YEAH, THROUGH A SHOT. 973 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,488 YEAH, THROUGH A SHOT. EITHER RIGHT THROUGH THE VEIN OR 974 00:33:10,488 --> 00:33:12,291 EITHER RIGHT THROUGH THE VEIN OR JUST LIKE YOU GET A SHOT, YOU 975 00:33:12,291 --> 00:33:13,892 JUST LIKE YOU GET A SHOT, YOU COULD DO IT THAT WAY. 976 00:33:13,892 --> 00:33:18,297 COULD DO IT THAT WAY. NOW, THAT CAN BE DONE EITHER PER 977 00:33:18,297 --> 00:33:20,498 NOW, THAT CAN BE DONE EITHER PER PROPHYLAXIS OR FOR TREATMENT SO 978 00:33:20,498 --> 00:33:21,100 PROPHYLAXIS OR FOR TREATMENT SO FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU’RE IN A 979 00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:22,568 FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU’RE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE A 980 00:33:22,568 --> 00:33:24,403 SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE A NURSING HOME SITUATION WHERE 981 00:33:24,403 --> 00:33:25,438 HERE IS AN OUTBREAK AND 982 00:33:25,438 --> 00:33:26,305 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHERE IS AN OUTBREAK AND WANT TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM 983 00:33:26,305 --> 00:33:27,606 WANT TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM GETTING ILL, YOU CAN JUST DO IT 984 00:33:27,606 --> 00:33:30,075 GETTING ILL, YOU CAN JUST DO IT THAT WAY OR AFTER A PERSON IS 985 00:33:30,075 --> 00:33:31,009 THAT WAY OR AFTER A PERSON IS INFECTED YOU CAN GIVE IT TO THEM 986 00:33:31,009 --> 00:33:33,612 INFECTED YOU CAN GIVE IT TO THEM AS A TREATMENT. 987 00:33:33,612 --> 00:33:38,417 AS A TREATMENT. THIS WAS VERY SUCCESSFULLY DONE 988 00:33:38,417 --> 00:33:39,618 THIS WAS VERY SUCCESSFULLY DONE IN A RANDOMIZED 989 00:33:39,618 --> 00:33:40,619 IN A RANDOMIZED PLACEBO-CONTROLLED TRIAL, WASN’T 990 00:33:40,619 --> 00:33:42,455 PLACEBO-CONTROLLED TRIAL, WASN’T A PLACEBO, IT WAS A DRUG THAT 991 00:33:42,455 --> 00:33:46,091 A PLACEBO, IT WAS A DRUG THAT WAS SERVING AS THE CONTROL. 992 00:33:46,091 --> 00:33:47,393 WAS SERVING AS THE CONTROL. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, EBOLA IN 993 00:33:47,393 --> 00:33:50,895 YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, EBOLA IN WEST AFRICA, WHERE WE SHOWED 994 00:33:50,895 --> 00:33:52,531 WEST AFRICA, WHERE WE SHOWED THAT TWO TYPES OF DIFFERENT 995 00:33:52,531 --> 00:33:53,164 THAT TWO TYPES OF DIFFERENT MONOCLONAL ANTIBODIES WERE VERY 996 00:33:53,164 --> 00:33:56,034 MONOCLONAL ANTIBODIES WERE VERY EFFECTIVE AND EBOLA. 997 00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:57,470 EFFECTIVE AND EBOLA. AND WE HOPE WE ARE GOING TO SEE 998 00:33:57,470 --> 00:34:06,411 AND WE HOPE WE ARE GOING TO SEE THE SAME THING NOW WITH COVID. 999 00:34:06,411 --> 00:34:07,313 THE SAME THING NOW WITH COVID. >> Mark: WHAT YOU THINK THE 1000 00:34:07,313 --> 00:34:08,680 >> Mark: WHAT YOU THINK THE TIME FRAME FOR THAT WOULD BE? 1001 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,381 TIME FRAME FOR THAT WOULD BE? >> Dr. Fauci: THE TRIALS HAVE 1002 00:34:09,381 --> 00:34:09,982 >> Dr. Fauci: THE TRIALS HAVE ALREADY STARTED. 1003 00:34:09,982 --> 00:34:12,317 ALREADY STARTED. I’D HOPED THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO 1004 00:34:12,317 --> 00:34:13,853 I’D HOPED THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ENOUGH EFFICACY DATA 1005 00:34:13,853 --> 00:34:14,487 HAVE ENOUGH EFFICACY DATA BECAUSE HER MEMBER, WHENEVER YOU 1006 00:34:14,487 --> 00:34:17,956 BECAUSE HER MEMBER, WHENEVER YOU DO THIS THEY MAY LOOK PROMISING 1007 00:34:17,956 --> 00:34:19,657 DO THIS THEY MAY LOOK PROMISING IN ANIMAL MODEL, ARE TO BE 1008 00:34:19,657 --> 00:34:21,860 IN ANIMAL MODEL, ARE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY AND 1009 00:34:21,860 --> 00:34:22,660 CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY AND CONCERNED ABOUT, ARE YOU REALLY 1010 00:34:22,660 --> 00:34:25,998 CONCERNED ABOUT, ARE YOU REALLY GIVING SOMEONE SOMETHING THAT 1011 00:34:25,998 --> 00:34:26,198 GIVING SOMEONE SOMETHING THAT WORKS? 1012 00:34:26,198 --> 00:34:28,701 WORKS? CLINICAL TRIALS ARE UNDERWAY FOR 1013 00:34:28,701 --> 00:34:30,002 CLINICAL TRIALS ARE UNDERWAY FOR SOME IT WILL SOON START IN 1014 00:34:30,002 --> 00:34:30,869 SOME IT WILL SOON START IN ANOTHER, I HOPE BY THE END OF 1015 00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:35,306 ANOTHER, I HOPE BY THE END OF THE SUMMER WE WILL HAVE ENOUGH 1016 00:34:35,306 --> 00:34:37,609 THE SUMMER WE WILL HAVE ENOUGH AS WE GET INTO THE FALL, WILL BE 1017 00:34:37,609 --> 00:34:41,045 AS WE GET INTO THE FALL, WILL BE REALLY GOOD IF WE HAVE BOOKENDS, 1018 00:34:41,045 --> 00:34:44,616 REALLY GOOD IF WE HAVE BOOKENDS, DRUGS FOR ADVANCED DISEASE AND 1019 00:34:44,616 --> 00:34:47,019 DRUGS FOR ADVANCED DISEASE AND DRUGS TO PREVENT ADVANCED 1020 00:34:47,019 --> 00:34:48,420 DRUGS TO PREVENT ADVANCED DISEASE. 1021 00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:49,988 DISEASE. >> Mark: IT IF THAT’S COMING 1022 00:34:49,988 --> 00:34:52,691 >> Mark: IT IF THAT’S COMING OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, THAT 1023 00:34:52,691 --> 00:34:55,227 OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, THAT IS A GOOD CAUSE FOR SOME 1024 00:34:55,227 --> 00:34:58,264 IS A GOOD CAUSE FOR SOME OPTIMISM. 1025 00:34:58,264 --> 00:34:59,565 OPTIMISM. LONGER-TERM, DEVELOPING A 1026 00:34:59,565 --> 00:35:01,867 LONGER-TERM, DEVELOPING A VACCINE IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL. 1027 00:35:01,867 --> 00:35:08,240 VACCINE IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL. SO I’M HOPING YOU CAN TALK A BIT 1028 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:09,508 SO I’M HOPING YOU CAN TALK A BIT ABOUT WHAT WE ARE IN THAT 1029 00:35:09,508 --> 00:35:10,909 ABOUT WHAT WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS AND THAT POINT IN THE 1030 00:35:10,909 --> 00:35:11,609 PROCESS AND THAT POINT IN THE PROCESS FROM GETTING FROM WHERE 1031 00:35:11,609 --> 00:35:14,345 PROCESS FROM GETTING FROM WHERE WE ARE NOW TO HAVING A VACCINE 1032 00:35:14,345 --> 00:35:22,254 WE ARE NOW TO HAVING A VACCINE THAT COULD IN THE SOON TO SET A 1033 00:35:22,254 --> 00:35:23,722 THAT COULD IN THE SOON TO SET A VACCINE COULD BE AVAILABLE BE 1034 00:35:23,722 --> 00:35:23,989 VACCINE COULD BE AVAILABLE BE AVAILABLE. 1035 00:35:23,989 --> 00:35:26,292 AVAILABLE. >> Dr. Fauci: I’M ACTUALLY 1036 00:35:26,292 --> 00:35:26,959 >> Dr. Fauci: I’M ACTUALLY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS BECAUSE OF 1037 00:35:26,959 --> 00:35:28,994 OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS BECAUSE OF WHAT WE SEE. 1038 00:35:28,994 --> 00:35:30,662 WHAT WE SEE. AS WE PROBABLY KNOW, GIVEN THE 1039 00:35:30,662 --> 00:35:32,630 AS WE PROBABLY KNOW, GIVEN THE TECHNOLOGIES WE HAVE AND THE 1040 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:34,700 TECHNOLOGIES WE HAVE AND THE DIFFERENT PLATFORMS, WE MOVED 1041 00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:35,701 DIFFERENT PLATFORMS, WE MOVED FROM LITERALLY THE DAY THAT THAT 1042 00:35:35,701 --> 00:35:39,404 FROM LITERALLY THE DAY THAT THAT SEQUENCE WAS PUT ON A PUBLIC 1043 00:35:39,404 --> 00:35:40,706 SEQUENCE WAS PUT ON A PUBLIC DATABASE TO GETTING THAT 1044 00:35:40,706 --> 00:35:42,007 DATABASE TO GETTING THAT SEQUENCE, PULLING THE GENE AND 1045 00:35:42,007 --> 00:35:42,640 SEQUENCE, PULLING THE GENE AND STICKING IT INTO THE PLATFORM TO 1046 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,279 STICKING IT INTO THE PLATFORM TO MAKE A VACCINE WAS MEASURED IN 1047 00:35:47,279 --> 00:35:49,215 MAKE A VACCINE WAS MEASURED IN DAYS AND 62 DAYS LATER WE WERE 1048 00:35:49,215 --> 00:35:50,349 DAYS AND 62 DAYS LATER WE WERE IN A PHASE ONE TRIAL. 1049 00:35:50,349 --> 00:35:55,254 IN A PHASE ONE TRIAL. THERE ARE MULTIPLE CANDIDATES, I 1050 00:35:55,254 --> 00:35:56,688 THERE ARE MULTIPLE CANDIDATES, I MAY TALK AS A PROTOTYPE OF ONE 1051 00:35:56,688 --> 00:35:58,223 MAY TALK AS A PROTOTYPE OF ONE BUT THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE THAT 1052 00:35:58,223 --> 00:36:01,493 BUT THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE THAT WILL BE GOING INTO ADVANCED 1053 00:36:01,493 --> 00:36:02,795 WILL BE GOING INTO ADVANCED TRIALS SORT OF IN TANDEM 1054 00:36:02,795 --> 00:36:03,262 TRIALS SORT OF IN TANDEM SEQUENTIALLY. 1055 00:36:03,262 --> 00:36:06,532 SEQUENTIALLY. ONE RIGHT NOW THAT TWO DAYS AGO 1056 00:36:06,532 --> 00:36:10,235 ONE RIGHT NOW THAT TWO DAYS AGO WAS PUBLISHED IN THE NEW ENGLAND 1057 00:36:10,235 --> 00:36:11,236 WAS PUBLISHED IN THE NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE, PHASE ONE 1058 00:36:11,236 --> 00:36:13,071 JOURNAL OF MEDICINE, PHASE ONE DATA THAT WE DID SOME TIME AGO, 1059 00:36:13,071 --> 00:36:15,139 DATA THAT WE DID SOME TIME AGO, FOR SAFETY AND TO SEE WHAT KIND 1060 00:36:15,139 --> 00:36:16,575 FOR SAFETY AND TO SEE WHAT KIND OF RESPONSE WAS INDUCED. 1061 00:36:16,575 --> 00:36:17,810 OF RESPONSE WAS INDUCED. THE THING THAT MAKES ME 1062 00:36:17,810 --> 00:36:18,377 THE THING THAT MAKES ME OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS WHOLE 1063 00:36:18,377 --> 00:36:22,681 OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS WHOLE ENTERPRISE IS THAT THIS VACCINE 1064 00:36:22,681 --> 00:36:24,583 ENTERPRISE IS THAT THIS VACCINE WHICH IS AN MRNA VACCINE THAT 1065 00:36:24,583 --> 00:36:25,450 WHICH IS AN MRNA VACCINE THAT WAS DEVELOPED HERE BUT AS I 1066 00:36:25,450 --> 00:36:30,255 WAS DEVELOPED HERE BUT AS I MENTIONED IS NOT THE ONLY ONE. 1067 00:36:30,255 --> 00:36:31,089 MENTIONED IS NOT THE ONLY ONE. THAT INDUCED IN THE PEOPLE WHO 1068 00:36:31,089 --> 00:36:35,560 THAT INDUCED IN THE PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THE PHASE ONE TRIAL, 1069 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:36,362 WERE IN THE PHASE ONE TRIAL, LEVELS OF NEUTRALIZING 1070 00:36:36,362 --> 00:36:37,796 LEVELS OF NEUTRALIZING ANTIBODIES WHICH ARE THE 1071 00:36:37,796 --> 00:36:40,032 ANTIBODIES WHICH ARE THE ANTIBODIES THAT ARE THE REAL 1072 00:36:40,032 --> 00:36:42,301 ANTIBODIES THAT ARE THE REAL BULLETS TO STOP THE VIRUS. 1073 00:36:42,301 --> 00:36:44,469 BULLETS TO STOP THE VIRUS. THAT IS THE GOLD STANDARD OF 1074 00:36:44,469 --> 00:36:47,205 THAT IS THE GOLD STANDARD OF PROTECTION IS NEUTRALIZING 1075 00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:48,707 PROTECTION IS NEUTRALIZING ANYBODY’S, IT INDUCED IT AT 1076 00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:50,909 ANYBODY’S, IT INDUCED IT AT LEVELS AT A MODERATE DOSE OF THE 1077 00:36:50,909 --> 00:36:55,614 LEVELS AT A MODERATE DOSE OF THE VACCINE THAT WERE AS HIGH OR 1078 00:36:55,614 --> 00:36:58,050 VACCINE THAT WERE AS HIGH OR HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU SEE IN 1079 00:36:58,050 --> 00:36:58,584 HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU SEE IN CONVALESCENT PLASMA AFTER 1080 00:36:58,584 --> 00:37:01,019 CONVALESCENT PLASMA AFTER NATURAL INFECTION. 1081 00:37:01,019 --> 00:37:02,120 NATURAL INFECTION. ONE OF THE HALLMARKS OF VAX 1082 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,390 ONE OF THE HALLMARKS OF VAX ANALOGY IS WHEN YOU GET A 1083 00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:06,692 ANALOGY IS WHEN YOU GET A VACCINE, YOU WOULD LIKE IT TO 1084 00:37:06,692 --> 00:37:07,293 VACCINE, YOU WOULD LIKE IT TO INDUCE OUR RESPONSE THAT’S AT 1085 00:37:07,293 --> 00:37:10,395 INDUCE OUR RESPONSE THAT’S AT LEAST AS GOOD AS NATURAL 1086 00:37:10,395 --> 00:37:10,662 LEAST AS GOOD AS NATURAL INFECTION. 1087 00:37:10,662 --> 00:37:14,900 INFECTION. WHICH WOULD PREDICT THAT THE 1088 00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:15,835 WHICH WOULD PREDICT THAT THE VACCINE WOULD LIKELY BE 1089 00:37:15,835 --> 00:37:16,468 VACCINE WOULD LIKELY BE SUCCESSFUL EVEN THOUGH THE PROOF 1090 00:37:16,468 --> 00:37:19,571 SUCCESSFUL EVEN THOUGH THE PROOF IN THE PUDDING IS ALWAYS THAT 1091 00:37:19,571 --> 00:37:21,272 IN THE PUDDING IS ALWAYS THAT YOU’VE GOT TO DO THE BIG 1092 00:37:21,272 --> 00:37:22,074 YOU’VE GOT TO DO THE BIG EFFICACY TRIAL FOR SAFETY AND 1093 00:37:22,074 --> 00:37:22,641 EFFICACY TRIAL FOR SAFETY AND FOR EFFICACY. 1094 00:37:22,641 --> 00:37:25,376 FOR EFFICACY. AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, JULY, 1095 00:37:25,376 --> 00:37:27,011 AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, JULY, WE ARE GOING TO BE STARTING THE 1096 00:37:27,011 --> 00:37:29,213 WE ARE GOING TO BE STARTING THE PHASE THREE TRIAL OF THIS 1097 00:37:29,213 --> 00:37:33,217 PHASE THREE TRIAL OF THIS CANDIDATE AND AS WE GET INTO THE 1098 00:37:33,217 --> 00:37:33,819 CANDIDATE AND AS WE GET INTO THE SUMMER, A MONTH LATER ANOTHER 1099 00:37:33,819 --> 00:37:34,887 SUMMER, A MONTH LATER ANOTHER CANDIDATE WILL GOING TO PHASE 1100 00:37:34,887 --> 00:37:36,422 CANDIDATE WILL GOING TO PHASE THREE TRIAL AND A MONTH LATER 1101 00:37:36,422 --> 00:37:38,857 THREE TRIAL AND A MONTH LATER ANOTHER SO OVER THE NEXT 4-5 1102 00:37:38,857 --> 00:37:41,460 ANOTHER SO OVER THE NEXT 4-5 MONTHS, YOU’RE GOING TO SEE 1103 00:37:41,460 --> 00:37:43,061 MONTHS, YOU’RE GOING TO SEE SEQUENTIALLY THESE CANDIDATES 1104 00:37:43,061 --> 00:37:44,195 SEQUENTIALLY THESE CANDIDATES GOING INTO CLINICAL TRIAL. 1105 00:37:44,195 --> 00:37:45,264 GOING INTO CLINICAL TRIAL. HAVING SAID THAT, IF EVERYTHING 1106 00:37:45,264 --> 00:37:47,300 HAVING SAID THAT, IF EVERYTHING WORKS OUT THE WAY WE HOPE BUT WE 1107 00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:49,868 WORKS OUT THE WAY WE HOPE BUT WE DON’T GET ANY UNPREDICTABLE 1108 00:37:49,868 --> 00:37:51,303 DON’T GET ANY UNPREDICTABLE POTHOLES AND BUMPS IN THE ROAD, 1109 00:37:51,303 --> 00:37:56,875 POTHOLES AND BUMPS IN THE ROAD, WE SHOULD KNOW AS WE GET INTO 1110 00:37:56,875 --> 00:37:59,545 WE SHOULD KNOW AS WE GET INTO THE MID--LATE FALL, EARLY WINTER 1111 00:37:59,545 --> 00:38:01,246 THE MID--LATE FALL, EARLY WINTER BUT PROBABLY LATE FALL WEATHER 1112 00:38:01,246 --> 00:38:02,348 BUT PROBABLY LATE FALL WEATHER WE HAVE CANDIDATES THAT REALLY 1113 00:38:02,348 --> 00:38:04,850 WE HAVE CANDIDATES THAT REALLY ARE SAFE AND EFFECTIVE AND I 1114 00:38:04,850 --> 00:38:05,484 ARE SAFE AND EFFECTIVE AND I HOPE AND ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL 1115 00:38:05,484 --> 00:38:09,254 HOPE AND ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL HAVE ONE OR MORE IF WE MET. 1116 00:38:09,254 --> 00:38:10,756 HAVE ONE OR MORE IF WE MET. IF THAT’S THE CASE, BY THE TIME 1117 00:38:10,756 --> 00:38:12,825 IF THAT’S THE CASE, BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE END OF THIS YEAR, 1118 00:38:12,825 --> 00:38:15,160 WE GET TO THE END OF THIS YEAR, THE BEGINNING OF CALENDAR YEAR 1119 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,098 THE BEGINNING OF CALENDAR YEAR 2021, WE MAY HAVE VACCINE ONE OR 1120 00:38:19,098 --> 00:38:20,766 2021, WE MAY HAVE VACCINE ONE OR MORE CANDIDATE THAT IS ACTUALLY 1121 00:38:20,766 --> 00:38:21,500 MORE CANDIDATE THAT IS ACTUALLY SAFE AND EFFECTIVE. 1122 00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:22,601 SAFE AND EFFECTIVE. THAT BEING THE CASE, WE CAN 1123 00:38:22,601 --> 00:38:27,072 THAT BEING THE CASE, WE CAN START DISTRIBUTING DOSES WIDELY 1124 00:38:27,072 --> 00:38:27,705 START DISTRIBUTING DOSES WIDELY AT THAT TIME. 1125 00:38:27,705 --> 00:38:29,074 AT THAT TIME. AND THE REASON I THINK WE CAN DO 1126 00:38:29,074 --> 00:38:30,174 AND THE REASON I THINK WE CAN DO IT IS THAT EVEN AS WE ARE DOING 1127 00:38:30,174 --> 00:38:35,046 IT IS THAT EVEN AS WE ARE DOING THE CLINICAL TRIALS NOW, WE COME 1128 00:38:35,046 --> 00:38:36,080 THE CLINICAL TRIALS NOW, WE COME AWAY BEING THE ENTERPRISE, THE 1129 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,649 AWAY BEING THE ENTERPRISE, THE COMPANIES ARE GOING TO ALREADY 1130 00:38:37,649 --> 00:38:41,285 COMPANIES ARE GOING TO ALREADY START MAKING DOSES AT RISK WHICH 1131 00:38:41,285 --> 00:38:42,587 START MAKING DOSES AT RISK WHICH MEANS ARE GOING TO MAKE DOSES 1132 00:38:42,587 --> 00:38:43,188 MEANS ARE GOING TO MAKE DOSES EVEN BEFORE THEY KNOW THE 1133 00:38:43,188 --> 00:38:45,323 EVEN BEFORE THEY KNOW THE VACCINE WORKS. 1134 00:38:45,323 --> 00:38:49,093 VACCINE WORKS. WHICH MEANS IF IT WORKS, THEY’VE 1135 00:38:49,093 --> 00:38:49,861 WHICH MEANS IF IT WORKS, THEY’VE SAVED MONTHS. 1136 00:38:49,861 --> 00:38:51,063 SAVED MONTHS. IF IT DOESN’T WORK, WE LOST A 1137 00:38:51,063 --> 00:38:53,232 IF IT DOESN’T WORK, WE LOST A LOT OF MONEY. 1138 00:38:53,232 --> 00:38:54,800 LOT OF MONEY. BUT WE FIGURE IT’S WORTH THE 1139 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,771 BUT WE FIGURE IT’S WORTH THE RISK SO THE RISK IS NOT IN 1140 00:38:58,771 --> 00:38:59,805 RISK SO THE RISK IS NOT IN SAFETY AND THE RISK IS NOT IN 1141 00:38:59,805 --> 00:39:03,041 SAFETY AND THE RISK IS NOT IN SCIENTIFIC INTEGRITY, THE RISK 1142 00:39:03,041 --> 00:39:04,375 SCIENTIFIC INTEGRITY, THE RISK IS FINANCIALLY TO TRY TO MAKE 1143 00:39:04,375 --> 00:39:07,012 IS FINANCIALLY TO TRY TO MAKE THESE STEPS TRUNCATED. 1144 00:39:07,012 --> 00:39:08,847 THESE STEPS TRUNCATED. SO THAT’S WHERE I THINK WE ARE 1145 00:39:08,847 --> 00:39:11,049 SO THAT’S WHERE I THINK WE ARE SO I’M REALLY QUITE CAUTIOUSLY 1146 00:39:11,049 --> 00:39:12,317 SO I’M REALLY QUITE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC THAT WE WILL BE ABLE 1147 00:39:12,317 --> 00:39:13,418 OPTIMISTIC THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING AS WE GET INTO 1148 00:39:13,418 --> 00:39:15,620 TO HAVE SOMETHING AS WE GET INTO THE END OF THIS YEAR AND THE 1149 00:39:15,620 --> 00:39:20,225 THE END OF THIS YEAR AND THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR. 1150 00:39:20,225 --> 00:39:22,093 BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR. >> Mark: THAT’S A GOOD NOTE OF 1151 00:39:22,093 --> 00:39:22,360 >> Mark: THAT’S A GOOD NOTE OF OPTIMISM. 1152 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,496 OPTIMISM. I THINK IT MIGHT BE USEFUL TO 1153 00:39:24,496 --> 00:39:28,967 I THINK IT MIGHT BE USEFUL TO TALK THROUGH THE PROCESS OF 1154 00:39:28,967 --> 00:39:29,701 TALK THROUGH THE PROCESS OF VETTING OF VACCINE, BOTH SO 1155 00:39:29,701 --> 00:39:30,368 VETTING OF VACCINE, BOTH SO PEOPLE HAVE SOME SENSE OF WHAT 1156 00:39:30,368 --> 00:39:34,540 PEOPLE HAVE SOME SENSE OF WHAT IT TAKES TO GET FROM AN INITIAL 1157 00:39:34,540 --> 00:39:38,376 IT TAKES TO GET FROM AN INITIAL CANDIDATE TO SOMETHING THAT’S 1158 00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:40,479 CANDIDATE TO SOMETHING THAT’S READY TO GO BUT ALSO BECAUSE, 1159 00:39:40,479 --> 00:39:44,182 READY TO GO BUT ALSO BECAUSE, WELL I KNOW THE VAST MAJORITY OF 1160 00:39:44,182 --> 00:39:45,683 WELL I KNOW THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WOULD BE VERY EXCITED AND 1161 00:39:45,683 --> 00:39:47,886 PEOPLE WOULD BE VERY EXCITED AND OPTIMISTIC IF THEY CANA VACCINE 1162 00:39:47,886 --> 00:39:52,057 OPTIMISTIC IF THEY CANA VACCINE THAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM 1163 00:39:52,057 --> 00:39:53,892 THAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM GETTING COVID TODAY, I KNOW 1164 00:39:53,892 --> 00:39:54,493 GETTING COVID TODAY, I KNOW THERE’S SOME PEOPLE, IT’S A 1165 00:39:54,493 --> 00:39:58,029 THERE’S SOME PEOPLE, IT’S A FRIEND BUT IT’S UNFORTUNATE WHO 1166 00:39:58,029 --> 00:40:01,800 FRIEND BUT IT’S UNFORTUNATE WHO QUESTION THE OVERWHELMING 1167 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,771 QUESTION THE OVERWHELMING SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE ON THE 1168 00:40:06,771 --> 00:40:08,673 SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE ON THE SAFETY OF SO I JUST THINK GOING 1169 00:40:08,673 --> 00:40:10,174 SAFETY OF SO I JUST THINK GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND SHOWING 1170 00:40:10,174 --> 00:40:10,809 THROUGH THE PROCESS AND SHOWING HOW OVERWHELMINGLY FOCUSED IT IS 1171 00:40:10,809 --> 00:40:14,112 HOW OVERWHELMINGLY FOCUSED IT IS ON MAKING SURE THAT THESE 1172 00:40:14,112 --> 00:40:15,379 ON MAKING SURE THAT THESE VACCINES ARE SAFE WOULD BE 1173 00:40:15,379 --> 00:40:17,983 VACCINES ARE SAFE WOULD BE HELPFUL TO GO THROUGH AS WELL. 1174 00:40:17,983 --> 00:40:18,750 HELPFUL TO GO THROUGH AS WELL. BE TOO SURE, VERY GOOD. 1175 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:21,587 BE TOO SURE, VERY GOOD. I WILL DO IT DISTINCTLY. 1176 00:40:21,587 --> 00:40:23,889 I WILL DO IT DISTINCTLY. YOU GET A CANDIDATE LIKE THE ONE 1177 00:40:23,889 --> 00:40:26,191 YOU GET A CANDIDATE LIKE THE ONE WE DID, YOU GET IT COMING YOU 1178 00:40:26,191 --> 00:40:27,893 WE DID, YOU GET IT COMING YOU PUT IT IN THE FORM TO BE 1179 00:40:27,893 --> 00:40:29,227 PUT IT IN THE FORM TO BE ADMINISTERED AND YOU PUT IT 1180 00:40:29,227 --> 00:40:32,764 ADMINISTERED AND YOU PUT IT THROUGH ANIMAL STUDIES, ANIMAL 1181 00:40:32,764 --> 00:40:37,436 THROUGH ANIMAL STUDIES, ANIMAL EFFECTIVE -- EFFICACY STUDIES. 1182 00:40:37,436 --> 00:40:39,671 EFFECTIVE -- EFFICACY STUDIES. SO BEFORE YOU THINK ABOUT GOING 1183 00:40:39,671 --> 00:40:40,239 SO BEFORE YOU THINK ABOUT GOING INTO PHASE ONE IN HUMANS, IS 1184 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,574 INTO PHASE ONE IN HUMANS, IS THERE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT 1185 00:40:42,574 --> 00:40:44,242 THERE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS GOING TO INDUCE A 1186 00:40:44,242 --> 00:40:45,544 THIS IS GOING TO INDUCE A RESPONSE, YOU’VE GOT TO SEE IT 1187 00:40:45,544 --> 00:40:46,444 RESPONSE, YOU’VE GOT TO SEE IT INDUCED IN AN ANIMAL BEFORE YOU 1188 00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:50,014 INDUCED IN AN ANIMAL BEFORE YOU SEE IT IN A HUMAN AND DOES IT 1189 00:40:50,014 --> 00:40:51,016 SEE IT IN A HUMAN AND DOES IT PROTECT IN DISEASE AND AN 1190 00:40:51,016 --> 00:40:51,650 PROTECT IN DISEASE AND AN ANIMAL? 1191 00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:52,417 ANIMAL? THEN YOU GET THAT CANDIDATE AND 1192 00:40:52,417 --> 00:40:55,721 THEN YOU GET THAT CANDIDATE AND GO INTO PHASE ONE, LIMITED 1193 00:40:55,721 --> 00:40:57,723 GO INTO PHASE ONE, LIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE, 45 PEOPLE, 15 1194 00:40:57,723 --> 00:41:02,628 NUMBER OF PEOPLE, 45 PEOPLE, 15 AT EACH DOSE, IS THERE ANY 1195 00:41:02,628 --> 00:41:03,462 AT EACH DOSE, IS THERE ANY IMMEDIATE SAFETY SIGNALS? 1196 00:41:03,462 --> 00:41:04,796 IMMEDIATE SAFETY SIGNALS? YOU WANT TO SEE IF IT INDUCES 1197 00:41:04,796 --> 00:41:06,965 YOU WANT TO SEE IF IT INDUCES THE KIND OF RESPONSE THAT YOU’D 1198 00:41:06,965 --> 00:41:09,401 THE KIND OF RESPONSE THAT YOU’D PREDICT WOULD BE PROTECTED. 1199 00:41:09,401 --> 00:41:12,037 PREDICT WOULD BE PROTECTED. IN THE NEXT PHASE, PHASE ONE, 45 1200 00:41:12,037 --> 00:41:13,971 IN THE NEXT PHASE, PHASE ONE, 45 PEOPLE. 1201 00:41:13,971 --> 00:41:15,140 PEOPLE. PHASE TWO IS HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE. 1202 00:41:15,140 --> 00:41:19,645 PHASE TWO IS HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE. YOU GET THERE, CONTINUE SAFETY, 1203 00:41:19,645 --> 00:41:22,414 YOU GET THERE, CONTINUE SAFETY, IF IT LOOKS GOOD YOU THEN MOVED 1204 00:41:22,414 --> 00:41:24,248 IF IT LOOKS GOOD YOU THEN MOVED TO PHASE THREE. 1205 00:41:24,248 --> 00:41:25,016 TO PHASE THREE. PHASE THREE GOES FROM HUNDREDS 1206 00:41:25,016 --> 00:41:27,119 PHASE THREE GOES FROM HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE HAVE THOUSANDS OF 1207 00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:28,620 OF PEOPLE HAVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. 1208 00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:29,821 PEOPLE. THE TRIAL WHERE GOING TO START 1209 00:41:29,821 --> 00:41:34,426 THE TRIAL WHERE GOING TO START AT THE END OF JULY, 30,000 1210 00:41:34,426 --> 00:41:36,395 AT THE END OF JULY, 30,000 PEOPLE. 1211 00:41:36,395 --> 00:41:37,896 PEOPLE. WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE 1212 00:41:37,896 --> 00:41:41,999 WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE IN TRIAL, YOUR CONSTANTLY 1213 00:41:41,999 --> 00:41:42,668 IN TRIAL, YOUR CONSTANTLY KEEPING YOUR EYE ON SAFETY. 1214 00:41:42,668 --> 00:41:48,840 KEEPING YOUR EYE ON SAFETY. TO MAKE SURE THAT A VACCINE 1215 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,473 TO MAKE SURE THAT A VACCINE DOESN’T ACTUALLY ENHANCE DISEASE 1216 00:41:49,473 --> 00:41:51,610 DOESN’T ACTUALLY ENHANCE DISEASE AND MAKE PEOPLE WORSE. 1217 00:41:51,610 --> 00:41:53,612 AND MAKE PEOPLE WORSE. ONCE YOU DO THAT, AT EVERY GIVEN 1218 00:41:53,612 --> 00:41:57,015 ONCE YOU DO THAT, AT EVERY GIVEN POINT IN THE TRIAL, AN 1219 00:41:57,015 --> 00:41:58,450 POINT IN THE TRIAL, AN INDEPENDENT GROUP CALLED THE 1220 00:41:58,450 --> 00:41:59,084 INDEPENDENT GROUP CALLED THE DATA AND SAFETY MONITORING BOARD 1221 00:41:59,084 --> 00:42:03,721 DATA AND SAFETY MONITORING BOARD LOOKS AT THE DATA AND SAYS, 1222 00:42:03,721 --> 00:42:05,289 LOOKS AT THE DATA AND SAYS, TRIALS GOING OKAY, YOU CAN 1223 00:42:05,289 --> 00:42:05,558 TRIALS GOING OKAY, YOU CAN CONTINUE. 1224 00:42:05,558 --> 00:42:07,560 CONTINUE. LOOKS NEXT MONTH ON A MONTH 1225 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,392 LOOKS NEXT MONTH ON A MONTH LATER, TRIALS GOING OKAY, YOU 1226 00:42:08,392 --> 00:42:10,629 LATER, TRIALS GOING OKAY, YOU CAN CONTINUE. 1227 00:42:10,629 --> 00:42:12,163 CAN CONTINUE. OR, WAIT A MINUTE, LOOKS LIKE 1228 00:42:12,163 --> 00:42:13,599 OR, WAIT A MINUTE, LOOKS LIKE YOU’RE NEVER GOING TO REALLY GET 1229 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:14,232 YOU’RE NEVER GOING TO REALLY GET AN ANSWER BECAUSE NOTHING LOOKS 1230 00:42:14,232 --> 00:42:17,636 AN ANSWER BECAUSE NOTHING LOOKS LIKE IT’S WORKING. 1231 00:42:17,636 --> 00:42:18,603 LIKE IT’S WORKING. FUTILITY, STOP THE TRIAL. 1232 00:42:18,603 --> 00:42:21,572 FUTILITY, STOP THE TRIAL. OR WHAT WE ARE HOPING FOR, THAT 1233 00:42:21,572 --> 00:42:24,009 OR WHAT WE ARE HOPING FOR, THAT THEY LOOK AT THE DATA AND SAY, 1234 00:42:24,009 --> 00:42:27,578 THEY LOOK AT THE DATA AND SAY, WOW, THIS LOOKS GOOD ENOUGH. 1235 00:42:27,578 --> 00:42:29,780 WOW, THIS LOOKS GOOD ENOUGH. ETHICALLY YOU CAN’T CONTINUE IN 1236 00:42:29,780 --> 00:42:33,184 ETHICALLY YOU CAN’T CONTINUE IN A PLACEBO. 1237 00:42:33,184 --> 00:42:35,654 A PLACEBO. THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUAL STEPS 1238 00:42:35,654 --> 00:42:42,260 THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUAL STEPS IN DEVELOPING A VACCINE. 1239 00:42:42,260 --> 00:42:43,427 IN DEVELOPING A VACCINE. >> Mark: THAT’S VERY HELPFUL 1240 00:42:43,427 --> 00:42:43,762 >> Mark: THAT’S VERY HELPFUL TO GO THROUGH. 1241 00:42:43,762 --> 00:42:48,266 TO GO THROUGH. WHILE WE ARE ON THE BASIC SAFETY 1242 00:42:48,266 --> 00:42:49,166 WHILE WE ARE ON THE BASIC SAFETY MEASURES FOR SOME OF THE COMMON 1243 00:42:49,166 --> 00:42:49,902 MEASURES FOR SOME OF THE COMMON SENSE THINGS THAT WE ARE HOPING 1244 00:42:49,902 --> 00:42:54,839 SENSE THINGS THAT WE ARE HOPING TO ROLL OUT, I HAVE A QUESTION 1245 00:42:54,839 --> 00:42:56,742 TO ROLL OUT, I HAVE A QUESTION HERE, ASKING IF THERE ARE ANY 1246 00:42:56,742 --> 00:42:57,376 HERE, ASKING IF THERE ARE ANY KNOWN ADVERSE EFFECTS ABOUT 1247 00:42:57,376 --> 00:43:00,077 KNOWN ADVERSE EFFECTS ABOUT WEARING A MASK AT ALL. 1248 00:43:00,077 --> 00:43:04,015 WEARING A MASK AT ALL. THERE’S SOME MEMES THAT GO 1249 00:43:04,015 --> 00:43:05,082 THERE’S SOME MEMES THAT GO AROUND, OUR PEOPLE BREATHING 1250 00:43:05,082 --> 00:43:06,617 AROUND, OUR PEOPLE BREATHING MORE CARBON DIOXIDE, ARE THERE 1251 00:43:06,617 --> 00:43:07,452 MORE CARBON DIOXIDE, ARE THERE ANY ISSUES LIKE THAT FROM ALL 1252 00:43:07,452 --> 00:43:10,255 ANY ISSUES LIKE THAT FROM ALL THE STUDIES AROUND THIS, IS 1253 00:43:10,255 --> 00:43:10,855 THE STUDIES AROUND THIS, IS ANYTHING NEGATIVE BEEN FOUND? 1254 00:43:10,855 --> 00:43:13,424 ANYTHING NEGATIVE BEEN FOUND? >> Dr. Fauci: NOT AT ALL, 1255 00:43:13,424 --> 00:43:15,060 >> Dr. Fauci: NOT AT ALL, THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY 1256 00:43:15,060 --> 00:43:15,694 THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY INDICATION THAT PUTTING A MASK 1257 00:43:15,694 --> 00:43:19,764 INDICATION THAT PUTTING A MASK ON AND WEARING A MASK FOR A 1258 00:43:19,764 --> 00:43:21,666 ON AND WEARING A MASK FOR A CONSIDERABLE PERIOD OF TIME, AS 1259 00:43:21,666 --> 00:43:24,403 CONSIDERABLE PERIOD OF TIME, AS ANY DELETERIOUS EFFECTS ON 1260 00:43:24,403 --> 00:43:25,369 ANY DELETERIOUS EFFECTS ON OXYGEN EXCHANGE OR ANYTHING LIKE 1261 00:43:25,369 --> 00:43:25,569 OXYGEN EXCHANGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 1262 00:43:25,569 --> 00:43:29,374 THAT. NOT AT ALL. 1263 00:43:29,374 --> 00:43:30,342 NOT AT ALL. >> Mark: MY UNDERSTANDING IS 1264 00:43:30,342 --> 00:43:34,212 >> Mark: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS ALSO BEEN STUDIED, I 1265 00:43:34,212 --> 00:43:36,081 THIS IS ALSO BEEN STUDIED, I HAVEN’T SEEN ANYTHING THAT 1266 00:43:36,081 --> 00:43:37,716 HAVEN’T SEEN ANYTHING THAT SUGGEST THAT THERE’S ANY ISSUE, 1267 00:43:37,716 --> 00:43:39,785 SUGGEST THAT THERE’S ANY ISSUE, THERE’S OBVIOUSLY AN EXPERT ON 1268 00:43:39,785 --> 00:43:47,124 THERE’S OBVIOUSLY AN EXPERT ON THIS. 1269 00:43:47,124 --> 00:43:50,395 THIS. >> Dr. Fauci: IT DOESN’T 1270 00:43:50,395 --> 00:43:51,629 >> Dr. Fauci: IT DOESN’T BOTHER ME, I EVEN RUN WITH A 1271 00:43:51,629 --> 00:43:53,098 BOTHER ME, I EVEN RUN WITH A MASK ON. 1272 00:43:53,098 --> 00:43:56,500 MASK ON. SOMETIMES IT GETS A LITTLE MOIST 1273 00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:57,602 SOMETIMES IT GETS A LITTLE MOIST THEY ARE DEPENDING ON THE CLOTH 1274 00:43:57,602 --> 00:43:58,369 THEY ARE DEPENDING ON THE CLOTH THAT YOU’RE WEARING BUT THERE’S 1275 00:43:58,369 --> 00:44:01,873 THAT YOU’RE WEARING BUT THERE’S NOTHING TO INDICATE THAT WEARING 1276 00:44:01,873 --> 00:44:05,577 NOTHING TO INDICATE THAT WEARING A MASK HAS DELETERIOUS EFFECTS. 1277 00:44:05,577 --> 00:44:06,243 A MASK HAS DELETERIOUS EFFECTS. >> Mark: OKAY. 1278 00:44:06,243 --> 00:44:09,748 >> Mark: OKAY. IT’S GOOD TO GET A CHANCE TO SAY 1279 00:44:09,748 --> 00:44:11,116 IT’S GOOD TO GET A CHANCE TO SAY THAT THAT IS CRYSTAL-CLEAR FOR 1280 00:44:11,116 --> 00:44:11,382 THAT THAT IS CRYSTAL-CLEAR FOR EVERYONE. 1281 00:44:11,382 --> 00:44:12,516 EVERYONE. READING A FEW MORE QUESTIONS 1282 00:44:12,516 --> 00:44:17,355 READING A FEW MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE THREAD HERE, ONE THAT 1283 00:44:17,355 --> 00:44:22,427 FROM THE THREAD HERE, ONE THAT HAS COME UP A BUNCH IS, SOME 1284 00:44:22,427 --> 00:44:24,629 HAS COME UP A BUNCH IS, SOME PEOPLE ARE WONDERING, IF 1285 00:44:24,629 --> 00:44:25,263 PEOPLE ARE WONDERING, IF SOMEBODY ISN’T SHOWING SYMPTOMS, 1286 00:44:25,263 --> 00:44:27,999 SOMEBODY ISN’T SHOWING SYMPTOMS, HOW IS IT THAT THEY CAN BE 1287 00:44:27,999 --> 00:44:28,300 HOW IS IT THAT THEY CAN BE CONTAGIOUS? 1288 00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:32,370 CONTAGIOUS? I KIND OF GET WHY THAT MIGHT NOT 1289 00:44:32,370 --> 00:44:34,038 I KIND OF GET WHY THAT MIGHT NOT BE OBVIOUS TO A LOT OF FOLKS AND 1290 00:44:34,038 --> 00:44:34,705 BE OBVIOUS TO A LOT OF FOLKS AND IT’S PROBABLY WORTH TAKING A FEW 1291 00:44:34,705 --> 00:44:37,641 IT’S PROBABLY WORTH TAKING A FEW MINUTES TO TALK TO HOW THAT 1292 00:44:37,641 --> 00:44:37,976 MINUTES TO TALK TO HOW THAT WORKS. 1293 00:44:37,976 --> 00:44:39,077 WORKS. >> Dr. Fauci: THAT’S A GREAT 1294 00:44:39,077 --> 00:44:40,912 >> Dr. Fauci: THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION AND I’M GLAD YOU ASKED 1295 00:44:40,912 --> 00:44:41,446 QUESTION AND I’M GLAD YOU ASKED IT. 1296 00:44:41,446 --> 00:44:44,749 IT. THE REASON YOU CAN BE CONTAGIOUS 1297 00:44:44,749 --> 00:44:45,750 THE REASON YOU CAN BE CONTAGIOUS CONTAGIOUS, IF YOU LOOK AT HOW 1298 00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:49,220 CONTAGIOUS, IF YOU LOOK AT HOW YOU TRANSMIT FROM ONE PERSON TO 1299 00:44:49,220 --> 00:44:50,489 YOU TRANSMIT FROM ONE PERSON TO ANOTHER, THE VIRUS RESIDES IN 1300 00:44:50,489 --> 00:44:51,556 ANOTHER, THE VIRUS RESIDES IN THE NASOPHARYNX IN THE BACK OF 1301 00:44:51,556 --> 00:44:52,858 THE NASOPHARYNX IN THE BACK OF THE THROAT SO THAT’S THE REASON 1302 00:44:52,858 --> 00:44:58,430 THE THROAT SO THAT’S THE REASON WHY WHEN YOU SPEAK OR COUGH OR 1303 00:44:58,430 --> 00:44:59,130 WHY WHEN YOU SPEAK OR COUGH OR SEEING, THE VIRUS AND DROPLETS 1304 00:44:59,130 --> 00:44:59,397 SEEING, THE VIRUS AND DROPLETS COMES OUT. 1305 00:44:59,397 --> 00:45:03,001 COMES OUT. YOU MAY NOT SEE IT BUT WHEN YOU 1306 00:45:03,001 --> 00:45:03,701 YOU MAY NOT SEE IT BUT WHEN YOU DO CERTAIN LIGHTING’S AND 1307 00:45:03,701 --> 00:45:07,405 DO CERTAIN LIGHTING’S AND LASERS, YOU CAN SEE IT. 1308 00:45:07,405 --> 00:45:09,574 LASERS, YOU CAN SEE IT. WHEN YOU MEASURE THE LEVEL OF 1309 00:45:09,574 --> 00:45:11,210 WHEN YOU MEASURE THE LEVEL OF VIRUS. 1310 00:45:11,210 --> 00:45:18,983 VIRUS. THEN ISTHE NASAL PHARYNX IN A 1311 00:45:18,983 --> 00:45:20,185 THEN ISTHE NASAL PHARYNX IN A SYMPTOMATICALLY BOOK, THERE’S AS 1312 00:45:20,185 --> 00:45:21,019 SYMPTOMATICALLY BOOK, THERE’S AS MUCH VIRUS IN THE NOSE OF A 1313 00:45:21,019 --> 00:45:23,088 MUCH VIRUS IN THE NOSE OF A PERSON WHO IS ASYMPTOMATIC AS 1314 00:45:23,088 --> 00:45:25,991 PERSON WHO IS ASYMPTOMATIC AS THERE IS IN THE SYMPTOMATIC 1315 00:45:25,991 --> 00:45:27,325 THERE IS IN THE SYMPTOMATIC PERSON, IT IS VERY, VERY LIKELY 1316 00:45:27,325 --> 00:45:31,696 PERSON, IT IS VERY, VERY LIKELY THAT WHEN THAT PERSON TALKS OR 1317 00:45:31,696 --> 00:45:34,299 THAT WHEN THAT PERSON TALKS OR SNEEZES OR WHATEVER, THAT 1318 00:45:34,299 --> 00:45:35,367 SNEEZES OR WHATEVER, THAT ANOTHER VIRUS WILL COME OUT TO 1319 00:45:35,367 --> 00:45:37,335 ANOTHER VIRUS WILL COME OUT TO INFECT ELSE. 1320 00:45:37,335 --> 00:45:40,639 INFECT ELSE. THERE IS NOT A LOT OF DIFFERENCE 1321 00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:41,272 THERE IS NOT A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN VIRUS MODE EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE 1322 00:45:41,272 --> 00:45:43,374 IN VIRUS MODE EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE CAN BE VERY DIFFERENT WITH 1323 00:45:43,374 --> 00:45:50,415 CAN BE VERY DIFFERENT WITH REGARD TO THEIR SYMPTOMS. 1324 00:45:50,415 --> 00:45:52,583 REGARD TO THEIR SYMPTOMS. >> Mark: RELATED TO YOUR POINT 1325 00:45:52,583 --> 00:45:53,684 >> Mark: RELATED TO YOUR POINT ABOUT DROPLETS, THERE IS SOME 1326 00:45:53,684 --> 00:45:55,954 ABOUT DROPLETS, THERE IS SOME RECENT PIECES THAT I’VE SEEN 1327 00:45:55,954 --> 00:46:00,592 RECENT PIECES THAT I’VE SEEN SUGGESTING THAT, OR WONDERING 1328 00:46:00,592 --> 00:46:01,759 SUGGESTING THAT, OR WONDERING WHETHER THIS IS AEROSOL OR 1329 00:46:01,759 --> 00:46:01,993 WHETHER THIS IS AEROSOL OR DROPLET. 1330 00:46:01,993 --> 00:46:04,596 DROPLET. A QUESTION FROM THE THREAD 1331 00:46:04,596 --> 00:46:06,798 A QUESTION FROM THE THREAD ABOUT, DO WE HAVE ANY DATA ON 1332 00:46:06,798 --> 00:46:07,666 ABOUT, DO WE HAVE ANY DATA ON HOW THIS MOVES AROUND 1333 00:46:07,666 --> 00:46:10,402 HOW THIS MOVES AROUND DIFFERENTLY INSIDE VERSUS 1334 00:46:10,402 --> 00:46:11,069 DIFFERENTLY INSIDE VERSUS OUTSIDE OR HOW LONG THIS CAN 1335 00:46:11,069 --> 00:46:18,143 OUTSIDE OR HOW LONG THIS CAN LINGER IN THE AIR? 1336 00:46:18,143 --> 00:46:20,311 LINGER IN THE AIR? SPEECH OF THE LINGER IN THE AIR 1337 00:46:20,311 --> 00:46:22,646 SPEECH OF THE LINGER IN THE AIR QUESTION RELATES TO WHETHER OR 1338 00:46:22,646 --> 00:46:24,381 QUESTION RELATES TO WHETHER OR NOT IT’S AEROSOLIZED OR 1339 00:46:24,381 --> 00:46:24,648 NOT IT’S AEROSOLIZED OR AIRBORNE. 1340 00:46:24,648 --> 00:46:26,218 AIRBORNE. THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF 1341 00:46:26,218 --> 00:46:26,484 THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DROPLETS. 1342 00:46:26,484 --> 00:46:29,421 DROPLETS. SO MOST OF THE DROPLETS WHEN 1343 00:46:29,421 --> 00:46:31,822 SO MOST OF THE DROPLETS WHEN PEOPLE SPEAK AND YOU SEE THAT 1344 00:46:31,822 --> 00:46:34,993 PEOPLE SPEAK AND YOU SEE THAT LITTLE SPRAY COME OUT, ARE 1345 00:46:34,993 --> 00:46:36,761 LITTLE SPRAY COME OUT, ARE GREATER THAN 5 MICROMETERS. 1346 00:46:36,761 --> 00:46:38,597 GREATER THAN 5 MICROMETERS. THOSE OF THE KIND THAT ARE HEAVY 1347 00:46:38,597 --> 00:46:40,164 THOSE OF THE KIND THAT ARE HEAVY ENOUGH, THEY DON’T GO ANY MORE 1348 00:46:40,164 --> 00:46:43,767 ENOUGH, THEY DON’T GO ANY MORE THAN 3 FEET AT THE MOST, 6 FEET. 1349 00:46:43,767 --> 00:46:45,370 THAN 3 FEET AT THE MOST, 6 FEET. WHICH IS WHY WE SAY WHEN YOU’RE 1350 00:46:45,370 --> 00:46:48,139 WHICH IS WHY WE SAY WHEN YOU’RE OUTSIDE STAY AT LEAST 6 FEET 1351 00:46:48,139 --> 00:46:50,742 OUTSIDE STAY AT LEAST 6 FEET APART FROM SOMEONE. 1352 00:46:50,742 --> 00:46:52,409 APART FROM SOMEONE. THERE ARE OTHER DROPLETS THAT 1353 00:46:52,409 --> 00:46:56,248 THERE ARE OTHER DROPLETS THAT ARE LESS THAN 5 MICROMETERS, 1354 00:46:56,248 --> 00:46:58,616 ARE LESS THAN 5 MICROMETERS, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT 1355 00:46:58,616 --> 00:46:58,950 THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT "AEROSOLIZED." 1356 00:46:58,950 --> 00:47:02,353 "AEROSOLIZED." INSTEAD OF COMING OUT AND 1357 00:47:02,353 --> 00:47:04,289 INSTEAD OF COMING OUT AND DROPPING WITHIN 3-6 FEET, IT CAN 1358 00:47:04,289 --> 00:47:08,426 DROPPING WITHIN 3-6 FEET, IT CAN KIND OF FLOAT AROUND THE AIR AND 1359 00:47:08,426 --> 00:47:11,562 KIND OF FLOAT AROUND THE AIR AND STAY IN THE AIR FOR A PERIOD OF 1360 00:47:11,562 --> 00:47:12,630 STAY IN THE AIR FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. 1361 00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:14,132 TIME. RIGHT NOW, IT IS UNCLEAR. 1362 00:47:14,132 --> 00:47:14,799 RIGHT NOW, IT IS UNCLEAR. IT IS BECAUSE YOU DON’T HAVE 1363 00:47:14,799 --> 00:47:18,036 IT IS BECAUSE YOU DON’T HAVE ENOUGH DATA. 1364 00:47:18,036 --> 00:47:18,836 ENOUGH DATA. THERE IS LIKELY SOME AEROSOL 1365 00:47:18,836 --> 00:47:21,372 THERE IS LIKELY SOME AEROSOL THAT COMES OUT AND YOU CAN SHOW 1366 00:47:21,372 --> 00:47:24,342 THAT COMES OUT AND YOU CAN SHOW THAT BY THESE LASERS AND LIGHTS. 1367 00:47:24,342 --> 00:47:26,076 THAT BY THESE LASERS AND LIGHTS. WE DON’T KNOW THE EXTENT TO 1368 00:47:26,076 --> 00:47:29,813 WE DON’T KNOW THE EXTENT TO WHICH AEROSOLIZED OR VIRUS THAT 1369 00:47:29,813 --> 00:47:31,149 WHICH AEROSOLIZED OR VIRUS THAT STAYS IN THE AIR FOR A LONG 1370 00:47:31,149 --> 00:47:34,618 STAYS IN THE AIR FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME IS INVOLVED IN 1371 00:47:34,618 --> 00:47:35,386 PERIOD OF TIME IS INVOLVED IN THE TRANSMISSION. 1372 00:47:35,386 --> 00:47:36,921 THE TRANSMISSION. WE CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW 1373 00:47:36,921 --> 00:47:39,089 WE CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT BUT IT’S VERY DIFFICULT TO 1374 00:47:39,089 --> 00:47:39,758 THAT BUT IT’S VERY DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE THAT. 1375 00:47:39,758 --> 00:47:41,960 DETERMINE THAT. EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW THAT SOME 1376 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:42,560 EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW THAT SOME DEGREE OF ERROR CIVILIZATION 1377 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,765 DEGREE OF ERROR CIVILIZATION DOES OCCUR, IF YOU TURN BACK THE 1378 00:47:46,765 --> 00:47:51,803 DOES OCCUR, IF YOU TURN BACK THE CLOCK AND GO TO SARS BACK IN 1379 00:47:51,803 --> 00:47:52,403 CLOCK AND GO TO SARS BACK IN 2002, 2003, THERE WAS A 1380 00:47:52,403 --> 00:47:55,839 2002, 2003, THERE WAS A CLEAR-CUT INSTANCE IN A 1381 00:47:55,839 --> 00:47:59,443 CLEAR-CUT INSTANCE IN A HONG KONG HOTEL WHERE ERROR 1382 00:47:59,443 --> 00:48:04,381 HONG KONG HOTEL WHERE ERROR CIVILIZATIONERROR CIVILIZATION A 1383 00:48:04,381 --> 00:48:04,648 CIVILIZATIONERROR CIVILIZATION A OCCURRED. 1384 00:48:04,648 --> 00:48:07,352 OCCURRED. WHY THAT PERSON WHO WAS THE 1385 00:48:07,352 --> 00:48:13,691 WHY THAT PERSON WHO WAS THE SOURCE OF THE, WE STILL HAVEN’T 1386 00:48:13,691 --> 00:48:16,260 SOURCE OF THE, WE STILL HAVEN’T FIGURED OUT, THAT WAS A GOOD 1387 00:48:16,260 --> 00:48:18,196 FIGURED OUT, THAT WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF CORONAVIRUS SPREADING 1388 00:48:18,196 --> 00:48:19,396 EXAMPLE OF CORONAVIRUS SPREADING THROUGH AEROSOL. 1389 00:48:19,396 --> 00:48:22,233 THROUGH AEROSOL. I CAN’T TELL YOU WITH SCIENTIFIC 1390 00:48:22,233 --> 00:48:23,268 I CAN’T TELL YOU WITH SCIENTIFIC CERTITUDE WHAT PROPORTION IS 1391 00:48:23,268 --> 00:48:24,202 CERTITUDE WHAT PROPORTION IS SPREAD THROUGH AEROSOL. 1392 00:48:24,202 --> 00:48:24,902 SPREAD THROUGH AEROSOL. IT’S ONE OF THE UNKNOWNS WE ARE 1393 00:48:24,902 --> 00:48:27,005 IT’S ONE OF THE UNKNOWNS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK OUT. 1394 00:48:27,005 --> 00:48:30,975 GOING TO HAVE TO WORK OUT. >> Mark: GOT IT. 1395 00:48:30,975 --> 00:48:34,345 >> Mark: GOT IT. MAYBE GO BACK TO VACCINES FOR 1396 00:48:34,345 --> 00:48:37,214 MAYBE GO BACK TO VACCINES FOR ONE MORE MINUTE, WE ARE SOME 1397 00:48:37,214 --> 00:48:40,752 ONE MORE MINUTE, WE ARE SOME NOVEL STRATEGIES WITH SOME OF 1398 00:48:40,752 --> 00:48:43,153 NOVEL STRATEGIES WITH SOME OF THESE VACCINES LIKE THE RNA 1399 00:48:43,153 --> 00:48:45,323 THESE VACCINES LIKE THE RNA VACCINE. 1400 00:48:45,323 --> 00:48:49,060 VACCINE. I’M NOT SURE IF THERE ARE ANY... 1401 00:48:49,060 --> 00:48:53,998 I’M NOT SURE IF THERE ARE ANY... MAY HAVE BEEN THE FIRST RNA 1402 00:48:53,998 --> 00:48:54,732 MAY HAVE BEEN THE FIRST RNA VACCINE. 1403 00:48:54,732 --> 00:48:55,933 VACCINE. I’M CURIOUS ABOUT THE ADVANTAGES 1404 00:48:55,933 --> 00:48:57,001 I’M CURIOUS ABOUT THE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF THE 1405 00:48:57,001 --> 00:48:59,104 AND DISADVANTAGES OF THE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES FOR TYPES 1406 00:48:59,104 --> 00:49:00,704 DIFFERENT STRATEGIES FOR TYPES OF VACCINES THAT CAN GET 1407 00:49:00,704 --> 00:49:05,043 OF VACCINES THAT CAN GET DEVELOPED AND MAYBE EVEN BEYOND 1408 00:49:05,043 --> 00:49:07,011 DEVELOPED AND MAYBE EVEN BEYOND COVID, IF AN RNA VACCINE ENDS UP 1409 00:49:07,011 --> 00:49:07,779 COVID, IF AN RNA VACCINE ENDS UP BEING POSSIBLE AND WORKING, WHAT 1410 00:49:07,779 --> 00:49:11,149 BEING POSSIBLE AND WORKING, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ADVANTAGES FOR 1411 00:49:11,149 --> 00:49:11,750 ARE SOME OF THE ADVANTAGES FOR TREATING FUTURE OUTBREAKS AND 1412 00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:14,552 TREATING FUTURE OUTBREAKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE? 1413 00:49:14,552 --> 00:49:15,754 THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE? >> Dr. Fauci: GOOD QUESTION. 1414 00:49:15,754 --> 00:49:18,022 >> Dr. Fauci: GOOD QUESTION. THERE ARE MULTIPLE, WE REFER TO 1415 00:49:18,022 --> 00:49:19,456 THERE ARE MULTIPLE, WE REFER TO THEM FOR LISTENERS, AND VIEWERS, 1416 00:49:19,456 --> 00:49:25,363 THEM FOR LISTENERS, AND VIEWERS, AS PLATFORMS. 1417 00:49:25,363 --> 00:49:27,132 AS PLATFORMS. MRNA IS A PLATFORM, VIRAL 1418 00:49:27,132 --> 00:49:30,168 MRNA IS A PLATFORM, VIRAL VECTORS ARE DIFFERENT PLATFORMS, 1419 00:49:30,168 --> 00:49:31,035 VECTORS ARE DIFFERENT PLATFORMS, SOLUBLE PROTEINS, KILLED AND 1420 00:49:31,035 --> 00:49:35,540 SOLUBLE PROTEINS, KILLED AND ACTIVATED IS ANOTHER PLATFORM. 1421 00:49:35,540 --> 00:49:36,608 ACTIVATED IS ANOTHER PLATFORM. SO WE HAD MULTIPLE PLATFORMS, 1422 00:49:36,608 --> 00:49:39,677 SO WE HAD MULTIPLE PLATFORMS, THREE ARE BEING ACTIVELY DONE, 1423 00:49:39,677 --> 00:49:45,884 THREE ARE BEING ACTIVELY DONE, ONE IS THE MRNA, THE OTHER IS 1424 00:49:45,884 --> 00:49:47,619 ONE IS THE MRNA, THE OTHER IS VIRAL VECTORS, STICK THE GENE OF 1425 00:49:47,619 --> 00:49:49,354 VIRAL VECTORS, STICK THE GENE OF THE SPIKE PROTEINS SO THAT IT 1426 00:49:49,354 --> 00:49:53,391 THE SPIKE PROTEINS SO THAT IT EXPRESSES ITSELF AND GET AN 1427 00:49:53,391 --> 00:49:55,794 EXPRESSES ITSELF AND GET AN IMMUNE RESPONSE, THE OTHER IS 1428 00:49:55,794 --> 00:49:56,860 IMMUNE RESPONSE, THE OTHER IS JUST TAKING A PROTEIN AND INJECT 1429 00:49:56,860 --> 00:49:57,328 JUST TAKING A PROTEIN AND INJECT IT WITH AN ADJECTIVE. 1430 00:49:57,328 --> 00:50:00,364 IT WITH AN ADJECTIVE. THE REASON THAT THE NOVEL 1431 00:50:00,364 --> 00:50:01,065 THE REASON THAT THE NOVEL TECHNOLOGIES WE USE ARE VERY 1432 00:50:01,065 --> 00:50:03,033 TECHNOLOGIES WE USE ARE VERY EASY TO JUST GET OUT OF THE 1433 00:50:03,033 --> 00:50:05,703 EASY TO JUST GET OUT OF THE LOCKS AND GO WITH IT, TEST 1434 00:50:05,703 --> 00:50:07,237 LOCKS AND GO WITH IT, TEST ASSESS WHAT I EXPLAINED TO YOU, 1435 00:50:07,237 --> 00:50:07,839 ASSESS WHAT I EXPLAINED TO YOU, THE TIMETABLE. 1436 00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:09,207 THE TIMETABLE. WE WENT FROM A COUPLE DAYS, 1437 00:50:09,207 --> 00:50:12,409 WE WENT FROM A COUPLE DAYS, BINGO, INTO A VACCINE, DONE. 1438 00:50:12,409 --> 00:50:13,878 BINGO, INTO A VACCINE, DONE. IF IT WORKS, WHICH WE BELIEVE IT 1439 00:50:13,878 --> 00:50:16,681 IF IT WORKS, WHICH WE BELIEVE IT WILL, IT WOULD BE A MAJOR 1440 00:50:16,681 --> 00:50:18,850 WILL, IT WOULD BE A MAJOR ADVANCE OF EASE, FACILITY, SCALE 1441 00:50:18,850 --> 00:50:23,020 ADVANCE OF EASE, FACILITY, SCALE UP AND ULTIMATELY OF COST. 1442 00:50:23,020 --> 00:50:23,888 UP AND ULTIMATELY OF COST. IT HASN’T BEEN PROVEN NO WAY 1443 00:50:23,888 --> 00:50:26,958 IT HASN’T BEEN PROVEN NO WAY SOME OF THE OTHERS HAVE LEARNED 1444 00:50:26,958 --> 00:50:27,991 SOME OF THE OTHERS HAVE LEARNED BY YEARS AND YEARS OF 1445 00:50:27,991 --> 00:50:28,993 BY YEARS AND YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. 1446 00:50:28,993 --> 00:50:30,027 EXPERIENCE. THAT’S ONE OF THE THINGS, IF IT 1447 00:50:30,027 --> 00:50:32,529 THAT’S ONE OF THE THINGS, IF IT WORKS WHICH I HOPE IT WILL, I 1448 00:50:32,529 --> 00:50:34,232 WORKS WHICH I HOPE IT WILL, I THINK IT WILL, PEOPLE WILL BE 1449 00:50:34,232 --> 00:50:35,667 THINK IT WILL, PEOPLE WILL BE SAYING, WOW, WE HAVE A RED-HOT 1450 00:50:35,667 --> 00:50:38,536 SAYING, WOW, WE HAVE A RED-HOT PLATFORM HERE, WE ARE GOING TO 1451 00:50:38,536 --> 00:50:40,171 PLATFORM HERE, WE ARE GOING TO START USING THAT FOR A LOT OF 1452 00:50:40,171 --> 00:50:40,537 START USING THAT FOR A LOT OF OTHER VACCINES. 1453 00:50:40,537 --> 00:50:42,474 OTHER VACCINES. THE OTHER ONES THAT WE HAVE, THE 1454 00:50:42,474 --> 00:50:46,978 THE OTHER ONES THAT WE HAVE, THE VIRAL VECTOR ONES, THE ONES I 1455 00:50:46,978 --> 00:50:48,613 VIRAL VECTOR ONES, THE ONES I DESCRIBED, THAT’S ANOTHER ONE 1456 00:50:48,613 --> 00:50:50,781 DESCRIBED, THAT’S ANOTHER ONE THAT WE’VE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE 1457 00:50:50,781 --> 00:50:53,585 THAT WE’VE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WITH, PARTICULARLY WITH EBOLA IN 1458 00:50:53,585 --> 00:50:54,252 WITH, PARTICULARLY WITH EBOLA IN WHICH IT WORKED VERY WELL AND 1459 00:50:54,252 --> 00:50:55,620 WHICH IT WORKED VERY WELL AND THEN THERE’S THE ONES THAT HAVE 1460 00:50:55,620 --> 00:50:58,389 THEN THERE’S THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN USED MORE COMMONLY WHICH IS 1461 00:50:58,389 --> 00:51:00,524 BEEN USED MORE COMMONLY WHICH IS THE SOLUBLE PROTEINS THAT YOU 1462 00:51:00,524 --> 00:51:03,460 THE SOLUBLE PROTEINS THAT YOU CAN MAKE WITH DNA TECHNOLOGY. 1463 00:51:03,460 --> 00:51:05,730 CAN MAKE WITH DNA TECHNOLOGY. SO THERE’S MULTIPLE PLATFORMS, 1464 00:51:05,730 --> 00:51:07,599 SO THERE’S MULTIPLE PLATFORMS, WE ARE HOPING AND I BELIEVE WE 1465 00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:08,799 WE ARE HOPING AND I BELIEVE WE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL, I HOPE WE 1466 00:51:08,799 --> 00:51:11,135 WILL BE SUCCESSFUL, I HOPE WE ARE, THAT MORE THAN ONE OF THEM 1467 00:51:11,135 --> 00:51:12,270 ARE, THAT MORE THAN ONE OF THEM WILL PROVE TO BE SAFE AND 1468 00:51:12,270 --> 00:51:15,039 WILL PROVE TO BE SAFE AND EFFECTIVE, IT WILL BE GOOD FOR 1469 00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:16,173 EFFECTIVE, IT WILL BE GOOD FOR THE EFFORT AND GOOD FOR THE 1470 00:51:16,173 --> 00:51:19,777 THE EFFORT AND GOOD FOR THE FIELD OF VAX ANALOGY BECAUSE 1471 00:51:19,777 --> 00:51:20,678 FIELD OF VAX ANALOGY BECAUSE IT’S REALLY UNPRECEDENTED THAT 1472 00:51:20,678 --> 00:51:22,613 IT’S REALLY UNPRECEDENTED THAT WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT 1473 00:51:22,613 --> 00:51:24,915 WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT PLATFORMS GOING ON AT THE SAME 1474 00:51:24,915 --> 00:51:27,117 PLATFORMS GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME TO DETERMINE SAFETY AND 1475 00:51:27,117 --> 00:51:29,721 TIME TO DETERMINE SAFETY AND EFFICACY. 1476 00:51:29,721 --> 00:51:30,388 EFFICACY. >> Mark: YEAH. 1477 00:51:30,388 --> 00:51:32,156 >> Mark: YEAH. ALL RIGHT, I THINK WE ARE ALMOST 1478 00:51:32,156 --> 00:51:32,824 ALL RIGHT, I THINK WE ARE ALMOST OUT OF TIME SO I WANTED TO CHECK 1479 00:51:32,824 --> 00:51:33,624 OUT OF TIME SO I WANTED TO CHECK IN AND SEE IF THERE’S ANYTHING 1480 00:51:33,624 --> 00:51:36,160 IN AND SEE IF THERE’S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO COVER OR ARE 1481 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,028 ELSE YOU WANTED TO COVER OR ARE THERE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS YOU’D 1482 00:51:37,028 --> 00:51:41,331 THERE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS YOU’D LIKE TO LEAVE THIS COMMUNITY 1483 00:51:41,331 --> 00:51:45,270 LIKE TO LEAVE THIS COMMUNITY WITH. 1484 00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:47,471 WITH. >> Mark:>> Dr. Fauci: YEAH, I JU 1485 00:51:47,471 --> 00:51:48,840 >> Mark:>> Dr. Fauci: YEAH, I JU WANTED TO REITERATE WHAT I SAID 1486 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:49,774 WANTED TO REITERATE WHAT I SAID BEFORE, THAT WE ARE ALL IN THIS 1487 00:51:49,774 --> 00:51:50,942 BEFORE, THAT WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER AND WE ARE GOING TO GET 1488 00:51:50,942 --> 00:51:51,909 TOGETHER AND WE ARE GOING TO GET THROUGH IT. 1489 00:51:51,909 --> 00:51:55,746 THROUGH IT. WE WILL GET THROUGH THIS 1490 00:51:55,746 --> 00:51:58,816 WE WILL GET THROUGH THIS DIFFICULT SITUATION. 1491 00:51:58,816 --> 00:52:00,150 DIFFICULT SITUATION. AT BEST... 1492 00:52:00,150 --> 00:52:01,185 AT BEST... A VERY SIGNIFICANT ISSUE THAT WE 1493 00:52:01,185 --> 00:52:02,453 A VERY SIGNIFICANT ISSUE THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW. 1494 00:52:02,453 --> 00:52:04,689 ARE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW. BUT WE’VE ALL GOT TO DO IT 1495 00:52:04,689 --> 00:52:04,956 BUT WE’VE ALL GOT TO DO IT TOGETHER. 1496 00:52:04,956 --> 00:52:08,826 TOGETHER. WE ARE IN IT TOGETHER AND SINCE 1497 00:52:08,826 --> 00:52:10,562 WE ARE IN IT TOGETHER AND SINCE I KNOW WE ARE LOOKING 1498 00:52:10,562 --> 00:52:11,195 I KNOW WE ARE LOOKING DISPROPORTIONATELY TO A LOT OF 1499 00:52:11,195 --> 00:52:12,497 DISPROPORTIONATELY TO A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING 1500 00:52:12,497 --> 00:52:17,034 YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING THIS, PLEASE ASSUME THE SOCIETAL 1501 00:52:17,034 --> 00:52:17,734 THIS, PLEASE ASSUME THE SOCIETAL RESPONSIBILITY OF BEING PART OF 1502 00:52:17,734 --> 00:52:19,604 RESPONSIBILITY OF BEING PART OF THE SOLUTION AND NOT PART OF THE 1503 00:52:19,604 --> 00:52:19,938 THE SOLUTION AND NOT PART OF THE PROBLEM. 1504 00:52:19,938 --> 00:52:20,939 PROBLEM. BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO GET 1505 00:52:20,939 --> 00:52:22,874 BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO GET THROUGH IT, WE ARE GOING TO GET 1506 00:52:22,874 --> 00:52:23,874 THROUGH IT, WE ARE GOING TO GET THIS UNDER CONTROL IN THE 1507 00:52:23,874 --> 00:52:24,542 THIS UNDER CONTROL IN THE SOUTHERN STATES AND HOPEFULLY WE 1508 00:52:24,542 --> 00:52:27,445 SOUTHERN STATES AND HOPEFULLY WE ARE NOT GOING TO SEE THESE KIND 1509 00:52:27,445 --> 00:52:30,548 ARE NOT GOING TO SEE THESE KIND OF SURGES SO THAT WE DO GET DOWN 1510 00:52:30,548 --> 00:52:33,618 OF SURGES SO THAT WE DO GET DOWN TO THE BASELINE THAT WE HOPE WE 1511 00:52:33,618 --> 00:52:33,818 TO THE BASELINE THAT WE HOPE WE WOULD. 1512 00:52:33,818 --> 00:52:36,054 WOULD. BECAUSE ONCE WE ARE DOWN TO THAT 1513 00:52:36,054 --> 00:52:37,288 BECAUSE ONCE WE ARE DOWN TO THAT BASELINE, MARK, IT’S GOING TO BE 1514 00:52:37,288 --> 00:52:40,924 BASELINE, MARK, IT’S GOING TO BE SO MUCH MORE EASY WHEN YOU OPEN 1515 00:52:40,924 --> 00:52:42,560 SO MUCH MORE EASY WHEN YOU OPEN UP THE COUNTRY, AS IT WERE, TO 1516 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,863 UP THE COUNTRY, AS IT WERE, TO PUT YOUR CLAMPS ON WHEN YOU GET 1517 00:52:45,863 --> 00:52:47,931 PUT YOUR CLAMPS ON WHEN YOU GET INDIVIDUAL INFECTIONS, THEY 1518 00:52:47,931 --> 00:52:49,801 INDIVIDUAL INFECTIONS, THEY DON’T STORE OFF THE CEILING, 1519 00:52:49,801 --> 00:52:50,635 DON’T STORE OFF THE CEILING, THEY STAY CLAMPED DOWN. 1520 00:52:50,635 --> 00:52:53,738 THEY STAY CLAMPED DOWN. THAT’S THE MESSAGE I WANT TO GET 1521 00:52:53,738 --> 00:52:53,904 THAT’S THE MESSAGE I WANT TO GET GET. 1522 00:52:53,904 --> 00:52:54,905 GET. ONE LAST TIME. 1523 00:52:54,905 --> 00:52:56,841 ONE LAST TIME. >> Mark: GREAT. 1524 00:52:56,841 --> 00:52:58,009 >> Mark: GREAT. WELL, THANK YOU, DR. FAUCI. 1525 00:52:58,009 --> 00:52:59,409 WELL, THANK YOU, DR. FAUCI. I THINK I SAY THIS ON BEHALF OF 1526 00:52:59,409 --> 00:53:03,148 I THINK I SAY THIS ON BEHALF OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHO WILL 1527 00:53:03,148 --> 00:53:03,815 MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHO WILL WATCH THIS. 1528 00:53:03,815 --> 00:53:04,482 WATCH THIS. WE APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP 1529 00:53:04,482 --> 00:53:07,051 WE APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR DEDICATION TO HELPING 1530 00:53:07,051 --> 00:53:12,323 AND YOUR DEDICATION TO HELPING US NAVIGATE THIS. 1531 00:53:12,323 --> 00:53:13,358 US NAVIGATE THIS. YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE’S 1532 00:53:13,358 --> 00:53:14,725 YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE’S CONFIDENCE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE 1533 00:53:14,725 --> 00:53:18,096 CONFIDENCE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE CONTINUE TO HAVE FAITH 1534 00:53:18,096 --> 00:53:19,596 OUT THERE CONTINUE TO HAVE FAITH IN SCIENCE AND WANT TO MAKE SURE 1535 00:53:19,596 --> 00:53:21,733 IN SCIENCE AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS LED, OUR RESPONSE 1536 00:53:21,733 --> 00:53:23,034 THAT THIS IS LED, OUR RESPONSE IS LED BY SCIENCE. 1537 00:53:23,034 --> 00:53:23,668 IS LED BY SCIENCE. SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT 1538 00:53:23,668 --> 00:53:26,771 SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU’RE DOING. 1539 00:53:26,771 --> 00:53:28,773 YOU’RE DOING. AND WHAT ARE SOME TRYING 1540 00:53:28,773 --> 00:53:29,774 AND WHAT ARE SOME TRYING CIRCUMSTANCES. 1541 00:53:29,774 --> 00:53:31,275 CIRCUMSTANCES. AND PLEASE STAY HEALTHY AND GOOD 1542 00:53:31,275 --> 00:53:32,910 AND PLEASE STAY HEALTHY AND GOOD AT. 1543 00:53:32,910 --> 00:53:33,778 AT. AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE OUT 1544 00:53:33,778 --> 00:53:35,013 AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE OUT THERE FOR TUNING IN TODAY. 1545 00:53:35,013 --> 00:53:38,482 THERE FOR TUNING IN TODAY. I HOPE YOU ALL STAY GOOD AS WELL 1546 00:53:38,482 --> 00:53:39,050 I HOPE YOU ALL STAY GOOD AS WELL AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO 1547 00:53:39,050 --> 00:53:42,753 AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL SOON. 1548 00:53:42,753 --> 00:53:43,721 SEEING YOU ALL SOON. >> Dr. Fauci: THANK YOU, MARK. 1549 00:53:43,721 --> 00:53:44,455 >> Dr. Fauci: THANK YOU, MARK. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE 1550 00:53:44,455 --> 00:53:45,923 THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE WITH YOU. 1551 00:53:45,923 --> 00:53:48,225 OPPORTUNITY TO BE WITH YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.